[lgbtwebproject] Re: Welcome to the new list!
- From: Venetia <venetiapenna@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lgbtwebproject@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:53:07 +0100
Have you seen these websites? They only concentrate on the gay aspect rather
than kids from minority groups etc and they're not as interactive as I think
we are hoping to go but they may help with research:
http://www.colage.org/
http://www.apa.org/pi/parent.html
http://www.familieslikemine.com/
http://www.growingkids.co.uk/GayLesbianParents.html
On 11/04/2008, Michael Blumental <mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I'm sticking to my guns. If there are forums, they have to be moderated.
> It's supposed to be a protected environment and I won't allow any bullying
> or bad language from people who come to cause trouble. Also, I don't want to
> have "arguments" at all. I'm not even entirely sure about the forums at all.
> The original idea was to offer people a variety of content they can't get
> anywhere else (stories, games etc featuring diverse families). Perhaps we
> should leave the forums out as that's distracting from the main focus. We
> can think about it later. When doing some research about other kids website
> I'll take note to see if they have forums and how they handle it.
>
>
>
> If I have time tonight, I'll start a Wiki where I'll start writing down
> information from our discussion (for example the list of names we gathered
> so far).
>
>
>
> --MB
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2008, *pil@xxxxxxxxxxxx* wrote:
>
> i think
> the kids need a forum
> for joking around
> and talking allot
> heavy moderating wikk take that away
> i think hose kids will know what homophobic - is
> and i trust them to drive their enemys away
> and feel stronger for it
> if not- we will drive them away
> but- MIKI- YOU SEE HOW SOMETIMES THE BEST threads in - Tapuz, for
> example- are the ones with all the arguing ...
>
> אלית מאיירת
> http://www.elite-illustrator.com
> בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
> http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Mark Bendon wrote:
>
> > writing from phone hence brevity. you're right, it didn't occur to me
> > that kids may well be reading. it'd be tragic if they were exposed to
> > any phobic bile.
> >
> > On 4/11/08, Michael Blumental <mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I agree regarding the names. It'll be nearly impossible to find a
> >> good short
> >> name. The length isn't important as much as having a catchy name
> >> with easy
> >> to spell words.
> >>
> >> I think the mailing list is the best way to discuss this, as people
> >> get the
> >> messages right in their mailbox rather than having to visit an
> >> external
> >> website and login to a forum, though I'm open for suggestions.
> >>
> >> As to moderating forums, I'm being extremely paranoid. I want to have
> >> exactly ZERO chance for any offensive message to be on the forums
> >> for more
> >> than a fraction of a second. Even with 24/7 moderation that would
> >> be a
> >> tricky task. That's why I think moderator approval for every post
> >> is a must
> >> if we go for something like that.
> >>
> >> --MB
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 11, 2008, origamiairplane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> Long names are acceptable if they're well known phrases -- both
> >> stick in the
> >> memory. Unfortunately as I say there aren't many .coms left
> >> available, with
> >> people blanket buying a lot of random combinations of one or two
> >> words.
> >>
> >> On 11/04/2008, elite avni <pil@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> all these names are so long...
> >> lets find or creat aforum for this
> >> for now
> >> so we can chat
> >> easier
> >>
> >> אלית מאיירת
> >> http://www.elite-illustrator.com
> >> בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
> >> http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Mark Bendon wrote:
> >> Oops, er, www.athousandcolors.com was meant to be the American
> >> spelling, and
> >> it is still available. I spelt it the UK way in the previous email.
> >> Not that
> >> great a URL, granted. :)
> >>
> >> On 10/04/2008, Mark Bendon <origamiairplane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> Nice to see things moving along. :)
> >>
> >> I personally think that the community is absolutely key to
> >> something like
> >> this, and vetting every post feels like something which could
> >> stifle its
> >> formation. Certainly mods should keep a watchful eye for homophobes
> >> etc.,
> >> but so long as the site is clearly provided to support all types of
> >> families rather than promote homosexuality (not that I subscribe to
> >> the ridiculous notions people have about these things, but the
> >> world has more than its fair share of idiots who will point the
> >> "you're promoting homosexuality!" finger), a large section of
> >> antagonists should be deterred I think.
> >>
> >> I don't know how you guys feel about that, just my own two cents.
> >>
> >> A key ethos of the site could be the encouragement of contributions
> >> from its
> >> readership/forums perhaps?
> >>
> >> As for name ideas, I find it helpful to just jot anything down, get
> >> a long
> >> old list going, to start the old creative juices flowing.
> >>
> >> So, I've verified the following are all still available
> >> (unfortunately none
> >> are one or two words -- there's not many .coms left to go round!):
> >>
> >> www.everykindoffamily.com
> >> www.takingallcomers.com
> >> www.jointherainbow.com
> >> www.followourrainbow.com
> >> www.athousandcolours.com
> >> www.everycoloureverycreed.com
> >> www.rainbowchain.com
> >> www.aplaceforusall.com
> >> www.nocloseddoors.com
> >> www.theeveryoneclub.com
> >> www.justonebigfamily.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/04/2008, Michael Blumental <mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I don't think the website's name should have the word "gay" in it
> >> too. It
> >> should be something that promotes diversity and fun. In fact, it
> >> should be
> >> quite subtle, not preachy.
> >>
> >> Can't for the love of God think of any new names. I'll do some
> >> research
> >> tomorrow and list the names of other similar kids' websites/
> >> portals. I'll
> >> also take note of what material they have on their site and what
> >> age groups
> >> they target.
> >>
> >> It is possible that some of the games we'll make will appeal to
> >> adults. Haven't thought of that... Can anyone here make Flash
> >> games? My
> >> ActionScript is rusty, but I might try to brush up on it in the
> >> upcoming
> >> months...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --MB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10 Apr 2008, at 22:52, elite avni wrote:
> >> Hi mIki
> >>
> >> I think the idea of several sections for deferent ages is good
> >> but also- perhaps each game will have levels- so a 4 year old can
> >> brag about
> >> him solving big boys riddles.
> >> and since you are a gamer
> >> i expect the game section to attract ppl from everywhere.
> >> yes- some homophobes too. perhaps they will learn a thing or 2...
> >>
> >> as for the name
> >>
> >> Gaymer
> >> as in
> >> Gamer ?
> >>
> >> and i had another one, but i dont remember the word. something that
> >> ends
> >> with- fairy - and is in the amusement park...
> >>
> >> i think it should be a short small name, easy to remember, not too
> >> much "
> >> gay-in-your-face"- so a kid can wear the shirt with the logo, and
> >> wont
> >> be ridiculed as
> >> " you go to the gay site...na na na na "
> >>
> >> like
> >> CNV
> >>
> >> like
> >> K.G
> >>
> >> we loooove K>G
> >> (kids gay)
> >>
> >> or GK
> >> or
> >> \you know what i mean
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> אלית מאיירת
> >> http://www.elite-illustrator.com
> >> בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
> >> http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Michael Blumental wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This e-mail from my friend Elite is in Hebrew and I imagine was
> >> meant to be
> >> sent to me directly. You don't need to understand hebrew to see
> >> that she's
> >> very talented from her attachment! Some interesting ideas which
> >> I'll roughly
> >> translate:
> >>
> >> Elite suggests to have forums and blogs (including a podcast). An
> >> idea I
> >> really like was to have competitions (drawing, colouring etc.).
> >> Also there
> >> was an idea to create shirts, stickers etc with logos and images
> >> from the
> >> site.
> >>
> >> I think forums are a nice idea, but we need to be very careful with
> >> that. It
> >> might attract homophobes and perverts and needs to be very carefully
> >> moderated. Perhaps even have a moderator approve every single
> >> message before
> >> it is posted. I think it'll be nice to create a section for parents
> >> to get
> >> feedback from them and keep them up to date with behind the scenes
> >> bits and
> >> sneak previews and perhaps even recruit visitors to volunteer
> >> themselves if
> >> they happen to have a creative talent.
> >>
> >> Age-wise: I was initially thinking of very young children, but I
> >> think we'll
> >> create two or three main sections aimed at different ages, offering a
> >> variety of activities.
> >>
> >> Another fun thing to think about is a name. Just throw in any silly
> >> name
> >> that goes through your name, even if it's bad. In fact, especially
> >> if it's
> >> bad. I'll go first with my horrible name, see if you can top it:
> >> Gay Jr.
> >> That name is wrong on so many way:
> >>
> >> 1) It's not inclusive. It's not only for kids with gay parents.
> >> 2) It sounds like it's about gay kids, which it's not.
> >> 3) It sounds like a child porn website! Yikes.
> >>
> >> Anyway!
> >>
> >> --MB
> >>
> >> On 10 Apr 2008, at 18:18, elite avni wrote:
> >> הי מותק
> >> ראשית
> >> אנא כתוב לי בקצרה בעברית את הרעיון
> >> כדי שאוכל לשלוח גם לדורית, אור, קירש
> >> ויוענה- שאני בטוחה שישמחו לתרום.
> >> שנית
> >> אני מוכנה לצייר לפני דרישה דברים
> >> פשוטים
> >> דפים לצביעה
> >> חבר את הנקודות, מבוכים ומשחקים וכו
> >> אשמח לתרום ציורים קיימים שניתן יהיה
> >> לקשור אותם לכל נושא שתביאו
> >> בקשר לתכנים- מי אני שאוכל לחבר תוכן
> >> לכזו משימה, אבל אשמל להפיץ ברשימות
> >> תפוצה
> >> ובפורומים מתאימים.
> >>
> >> אני חושבת שאתר כזה דורש מערכת פורומים
> >> ובלוגים
> >> אולי שידורי פוד ורדיו קטן
> >> אולי קצת סלבס
> >> לא נראה לי שתהיה בעיה לרתום שחקנים
> >> וזמרים רבים- לכתוב איזה מכתב עידוד,
> >> להשיב
> >> בפורום וכו
> >>
> >> אשמח לעזור בשיפוט תחרויות ציור וצביעה
> >> ואולי להעניק כמה שיעורי ציור או
> >> פוטושופ און ליין בכל שיטה שתבחר.
> >>
> >> כמובן שבהמשך ידרש הלוגו לככב על
> >> חולצות ומדבקות ודברים ממשיים ולא
> >> וירטואליים-
> >> אז חשוב עליו היטב, ואם אתה זקוק לעזרה-
> >> נראה לי שלאור יש נסיון כביר בזה.. (
> >> יוזם קווירחנות ותיק וידוע).
> >>
> >> המיזם שלך ראוי להערכה
> >> עלה והצלח
> >> אוהבת
> >>
> >> (ראית את הסאות'פארק הלפני אחרון על
> >> קנדה ??)
> >>
> >> <Sado3.jpg>
> >>
> >> אלית מאיירת
> >> http://www.elite-illustrator.com
> >> בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
> >> http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 10, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Michael Blumental wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> This is the new list for the new LGBT website project you all showed
> >> interest in. The purpose of this list is to discuss exactly what we
> >> should
> >> be doing. The basic idea, as I pitched it before, is to have a fun
> >> website
> >> for parents and children where they can access stories, games and
> >> activities
> >> that they can enjoy both off-line and on-line. The twist is that
> >> the content
> >> will feature as a setting a variety of different family types: gay,
> >> transgender, single, mixed race etc. etc.
> >>
> >> So let the discussion start! I'll be creating a Wiki soon to keep
> >> track of
> >> the discussions on the mailing list.
> >>
> >> To write to the list either reply to any message sent by the list
> >> or compose
> >> a message to lgbtwebproject@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .
> >>
> >> There are ten of us so far (though I know some have a less frequent
> >> access
> >> to e-mail than others), but feel free to recruit for the cause.
> >>
> >> Anyway!
> >>
> >> My plan is to have stories and poems that can be viewed on-line
> >> (perhaps
> >> with simple animations or flash interactivity) or printed offline.
> >> There
> >> should be games and activities (connect the dots, spot the
> >> differences,
> >> colouring etc.). Anything else? Does anyone have any questions or
> >> thoughts
> >> on the technical side of putting it all together?
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> --MB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
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>
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