i think
the kids need a forum
for joking around
and talking allot
heavy moderating wikk take that away
i think hose kids will know what homophobic - is
and i trust them to drive their enemys away
and feel stronger for it
if not- we will drive them away
but- MIKI- YOU SEE HOW SOMETIMES THE BEST threads in - Tapuz, for  
example- are the ones with all the arguing ...

אלית מאיירת
http://www.elite-illustrator.com
בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/



On Apr 11, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Mark Bendon wrote:

> writing from phone hence brevity. you're right, it didn't occur to me
> that kids may well be reading. it'd be tragic if they were exposed to
> any phobic bile.
>
> On 4/11/08, Michael Blumental <mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree regarding the names. It'll be nearly impossible to find a  
>> good short
>> name. The length isn't important as much as having a catchy name  
>> with easy
>> to spell words.
>>
>> I think the mailing list is the best way to discuss this, as people  
>> get the
>> messages right in their mailbox rather than having to visit an  
>> external
>> website and login to a forum, though I'm open for suggestions.
>>
>> As to moderating forums, I'm being extremely paranoid. I want to have
>> exactly ZERO chance for any offensive message to be on the forums  
>> for more
>> than a fraction of a second. Even with 24/7 moderation that would  
>> be a
>> tricky task. That's why I think moderator approval for every post  
>> is a must
>> if we go for something like that.
>>
>> --MB
>>
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2008, origamiairplane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> Long names are acceptable if they're well known phrases -- both  
>> stick in the
>> memory. Unfortunately as I say there aren't many .coms left  
>> available, with
>> people blanket buying a lot of random combinations of one or two  
>> words.
>>
>> On 11/04/2008, elite avni <pil@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> all these names are so long...
>> lets find or creat aforum for this
>> for now
>> so we can chat
>> easier
>>
>> אלית מאיירת
>> http://www.elite-illustrator.com
>> בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
>> http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Mark Bendon wrote:
>> Oops, er, www.athousandcolors.com was meant to be the American  
>> spelling, and
>> it is still available. I spelt it the UK way in the previous email.  
>> Not that
>> great a URL, granted. :)
>>
>> On 10/04/2008, Mark Bendon <origamiairplane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Nice to see things moving along. :)
>>
>> I personally think that the community is absolutely key to  
>> something like
>> this, and vetting every post feels like something which could  
>> stifle its
>> formation. Certainly mods should keep a watchful eye for homophobes  
>> etc.,
>> but so long as the site is clearly provided to support all types of  
>> families rather than promote homosexuality (not that I subscribe to  
>> the ridiculous notions people have about these things, but the  
>> world has more than its fair share of idiots who will point the  
>> "you're promoting homosexuality!" finger), a large section of  
>> antagonists should be deterred I think.
>>
>> I don't know how you guys feel about that, just my own two cents.
>>
>> A key ethos of the site could be the encouragement of contributions  
>> from its
>> readership/forums perhaps?
>>
>> As for name ideas, I find it helpful to just jot anything down, get  
>> a long
>> old list going, to start the old creative juices flowing.
>>
>> So, I've verified the following are all still available  
>> (unfortunately none
>> are one or two words -- there's not many .coms left to go round!):
>>
>> www.everykindoffamily.com
>> www.takingallcomers.com
>> www.jointherainbow.com
>> www.followourrainbow.com
>> www.athousandcolours.com
>> www.everycoloureverycreed.com
>> www.rainbowchain.com
>> www.aplaceforusall.com
>> www.nocloseddoors.com
>> www.theeveryoneclub.com
>> www.justonebigfamily.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/04/2008, Michael Blumental <mickey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't think the website's name should have the word "gay" in it  
>> too. It
>> should be something that promotes diversity and fun. In fact, it  
>> should be
>> quite subtle, not preachy.
>>
>> Can't for the love of God think of any new names. I'll do some  
>> research
>> tomorrow and list the names of other similar kids' websites/
>> portals. I'll
>> also take note of what material they have on their site and what  
>> age groups
>> they target.
>>
>> It is possible that some of the games we'll make will appeal to
>> adults. Haven't thought of that... Can anyone here make Flash  
>> games? My
>> ActionScript is rusty, but I might try to brush up on it in the  
>> upcoming
>> months...
>>
>>
>>
>> --MB
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 Apr 2008, at 22:52, elite avni wrote:
>> Hi mIki
>>
>> I think the idea of several sections for deferent ages is good
>> but also- perhaps each game will have levels- so a 4 year old can  
>> brag about
>> him solving big boys riddles.
>> and since you are a gamer
>> i expect the game section to attract ppl from everywhere.
>> yes- some homophobes too. perhaps they will learn a thing or 2...
>>
>> as for the name
>>
>> Gaymer
>> as in
>> Gamer ?
>>
>> and i had another one, but i dont remember the word. something that  
>> ends
>> with- fairy - and is in the amusement park...
>>
>> i think it should be  a short small name, easy to remember, not too  
>> much "
>> gay-in-your-face"- so a kid can wear the shirt with the logo, and  
>> wont
>> be ridiculed as
>> " you go to the gay site...na na na na "
>>
>> like
>> CNV
>>
>> like
>> K.G
>>
>> we loooove  K>G
>> (kids gay)
>>
>> or GK
>> or
>> \you know  what i mean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> אלית מאיירת
>> http://www.elite-illustrator.com
>> בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
>> http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Michael Blumental wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This e-mail from my friend Elite is in Hebrew and I imagine was  
>> meant to be
>> sent to me directly. You don't need to understand hebrew to see  
>> that she's
>> very talented from her attachment! Some interesting ideas which  
>> I'll roughly
>> translate:
>>
>> Elite suggests to have forums and blogs (including a podcast). An  
>> idea I
>> really like was to have competitions (drawing, colouring etc.).  
>> Also there
>> was an idea to create shirts, stickers etc with logos and images  
>> from the
>> site.
>>
>> I think forums are a nice idea, but we need to be very careful with  
>> that. It
>> might attract homophobes and perverts and needs to be very carefully
>> moderated. Perhaps even have a moderator approve every single  
>> message before
>> it is posted. I think it'll be nice to create a section for parents  
>> to get
>> feedback from them and keep them up to date with behind the scenes  
>> bits and
>> sneak previews and perhaps even recruit visitors to volunteer  
>> themselves if
>> they happen to have a creative talent.
>>
>> Age-wise: I was initially thinking of very young children, but I  
>> think we'll
>> create two or three main sections aimed at different ages, offering a
>> variety of activities.
>>
>> Another fun thing to think about is a name. Just throw in any silly  
>> name
>> that goes through your name, even if it's bad. In fact, especially  
>> if it's
>> bad. I'll go first with my horrible name, see if you can top it:  
>> Gay Jr.
>> That name is wrong on so many way:
>>
>> 1) It's not inclusive. It's not only for kids with gay parents.
>> 2) It sounds like it's about gay kids, which it's not.
>> 3) It sounds like a child porn website! Yikes.
>>
>> Anyway!
>>
>> --MB
>>
>> On 10 Apr 2008, at 18:18, elite avni wrote:
>> הי מותק
>> ראשית
>> אנא כתוב לי בקצרה בעברית את הרעיון
>> כדי שאוכל לשלוח גם לדורית, אור, קירש  
>> ויוענה- שאני בטוחה שישמחו לתרום.
>> שנית
>> אני מוכנה לצייר לפני דרישה דברים  
>> פשוטים
>> דפים לצביעה
>> חבר את הנקודות, מבוכים ומשחקים וכו
>> אשמח לתרום ציורים קיימים שניתן יהיה  
>> לקשור אותם לכל נושא שתביאו
>> בקשר לתכנים- מי אני שאוכל לחבר תוכן  
>> לכזו משימה, אבל אשמל להפיץ ברשימות  
>> תפוצה
>> ובפורומים מתאימים.
>>
>> אני חושבת שאתר כזה דורש מערכת פורומים  
>> ובלוגים
>> אולי שידורי פוד  ורדיו קטן
>> אולי קצת סלבס
>> לא נראה לי שתהיה בעיה לרתום שחקנים  
>> וזמרים רבים- לכתוב איזה מכתב עידוד,  
>> להשיב
>> בפורום וכו
>>
>> אשמח לעזור בשיפוט תחרויות ציור וצביעה
>> ואולי להעניק כמה שיעורי ציור או  
>> פוטושופ און ליין בכל שיטה שתבחר.
>>
>> כמובן שבהמשך ידרש הלוגו לככב על  
>> חולצות ומדבקות ודברים ממשיים ולא  
>> וירטואליים-
>> אז חשוב עליו היטב, ואם אתה זקוק לעזרה-  
>> נראה לי שלאור יש נסיון כביר בזה.. (
>> יוזם קווירחנות ותיק וידוע).
>>
>> המיזם שלך ראוי להערכה
>> עלה והצלח
>> אוהבת
>>
>> (ראית את הסאות'פארק הלפני אחרון על  
>> קנדה ??)
>>
>> <Sado3.jpg>
>>
>> אלית מאיירת
>> http://www.elite-illustrator.com
>> בקרו בבלוג המאוייר שלי
>> http://www.elite-illustrator.com/blog/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Michael Blumental wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is the new list for the new LGBT website project you all showed
>> interest in. The purpose of this list is to discuss exactly what we  
>> should
>> be doing. The basic idea, as I pitched it before, is to have a fun  
>> website
>> for parents and children where they can access stories, games and  
>> activities
>> that they can enjoy both off-line and on-line. The twist is that  
>> the content
>> will feature as a setting a variety of different family types: gay,
>> transgender,  single, mixed race etc. etc.
>>
>> So let the discussion start! I'll be creating a Wiki soon to keep  
>> track of
>> the discussions on the mailing list.
>>
>> To write to the list either reply to any message sent by the list  
>> or compose
>> a message to lgbtwebproject@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .
>>
>> There are ten of us so far (though I know some have a less frequent  
>> access
>> to e-mail than others), but feel free to recruit for the cause.
>>
>> Anyway!
>>
>> My plan is to have stories and poems that can be viewed on-line  
>> (perhaps
>> with simple animations or flash interactivity) or printed offline.  
>> There
>> should be games and activities (connect the dots, spot the  
>> differences,
>> colouring etc.).  Anything else? Does anyone have any questions or  
>> thoughts
>> on the technical side of putting it all together?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> --MB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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