[LRFlex] Re: A question of History.
- From: "steverose" <steverose108@xxxxxxx>
- To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:53:05 -0700
OK David, sorry to beat a dead horse as they say, it is clear that you know
people who know people! I couldn't remember the name, Kobiyashi, but glad
you have a ear to the ground over there... wouldn't it be great if they
brought out some lenses for our cameras?
You are right, I have to say having shot only one roll so far with a far
more ancient Leitz lens ( a mint 50 f/2 Summitar) I can start to see what
the Leica hoopla is all about... not just very sharp but something very
'special' about the way the photos appear. I do like the way the background
is pleasant in the out of focus areas, some call this bokeh but I am not
sure if that term is only correctly applied to the out of focus highlights,
or the whole of the out of focus area? It seems as if the more round, or at
least assymetrical the iris is the more this is presented, and of course on
this old Summitar the iris is nearly round as it is on my old US press
camera lenses that give a similar look on 4x5 film
I can't exactly say what it is, but they just seem right, and 'easy to look
at' the way our US beer manufacturers often tout their wares as being 'easy
to drink'...! Personally I thought, the first time I heard that, maybe if
you are finding beer hard to drink these days you are drinking too much of
it? Maybe God's way of saying, sober up?
Anyway, another analogy may be what the high end audiophiles (ie., rich
people) talk about when describing systems that have 'musicality' versus
those that produce 'listener fatigue' after a period. I do think there is
something to that...there are some systems that are technical marvels but
after a while grate on the nerves on some subtle level, causing you to get
up off the sofa....while others encourage you to fritter the day away
listening to your old records as if for the first time... I can see spending
some time in the darkroom with these negatives to see what is possible,
based on just a quick negative scan or two on my daughters cheap Epson
scanner.
Yours, Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 7:18 AM
Subject: [LRFlex] A question of History.
Steven wrote:
>THanks for the nice welcome David. I am looking forward to asking some
>intelligent questions for the group, once I actually have the camera
>underway. I found a good on-line manual to get started for now.
My apologies, Steven! I should have pointed out, in my reply, that I have
free manuals for the R4 (with a supplement page for the R4s and R4s-p) on
my web-site, along with most other Leica manuals.
They can be found by going to www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr and clicking on Leica
Manuals.
If you have found an R4s specific manual, on-line, without charge, will you
kindly tell me where it is, so that I may add a link to it?
>I have the body now, the lens is coming from Denmark, sold to me by a
>Chinese guy over
>there if you can believe that!
Yes. My 80~200 Vario came from Scotland whilst my SL and 50 Summicron came
from an Englishman (and LRFlex member) living in Ireland. It is, indeed, a
small world!
>As to Gandy, I don't remember if he has any such dates posted on his site,
No, he does not. I've checked thoroughly.
However, do not worry. I have the matter in hand. I now know that the first
lens with the Voigtlander name was the "Snap-Shot" Skopar f4/25mm and that
was introduced in 1998. In which year, Cosina took out the license, I
still do not know, though it is obviously either 1997 or 1998.
A friend of mine, who is leaving for Photokina today, is a personal friend
of Mr. Kobayashi, the owner of Cosina. He will ask Mr. "K" personally and
the answers should be in my now not-so-"Brief History" by mid October. As
always, it is now what you know, but who you know! :)
>The V/C lenses are really really good... maybe we can talk him into making
>some for our SLR Leicas?
I asked, about a year ago. Mr. Kobayashi has a line of SLR lenses; and I
am given to understand that these may appear in Leica 'R' mounts.. It's
apparently on Cosina's 'to do' list, but too many other things seem to be
ahead of it, on the list!
I, for one, would be interested in the 40mm/F2 for use between my 21/4
Super Angulon and the 80~200 Vario.
I don't believe that the line of LTM and "M" mount lenses will be ported to
the 'R' series, due to registration problems.
>Doubt I can afford any other lenses for my R4s at
>Leica prices, even used....but if the 35 is as good as they say I think I
>can be happy with it alone.
A word of caution, my friend. I once said the same thing. I now have 2
bodies (R8 & SL) and lenses at 21/50/90/80~200 and 400mm focal lengths.
Once you get used to the quality, there is no going back.
Thanks, for all your suggestions, but as I pointed out, the history matter
is now in hand.
Cheers!
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