[klaatumail] Re: Fwd: Fw: How Big is Walmart?
- From: Wesle Dymoke <wesdym@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
Simpson was acquitted in a highly compromised public trial on criminal charges,
but did not escape civil conviction on the same evidence.
Preston and Jackson both escaped trial. Preston's charges were dropped on
conditional plea, and Jackson settled out of court. In both cases, if
authorities thought they really could hang them, they almost certain would have
made every reasonable effort. The fact that they didn't doesn't fully exonerate
them, but it makes it ethically difficult to brand them as guilty without
trial.
For all its many failings and shortcomings, I still believe that 'innocent till
proven guilty' has important meaning for civilised Western society. That
doesn't
mean that I think they're innocent, only that I'm not going run around claiming
they're guilty without a great deal more credible evidence than people's
assumptions.
In the case of Yusuf Islam, I don't think there's any credible evidence linking
him to terrorism. Israel's accusations were never qualified with any evidence,
and U.S. concerns were based entirely on that alone. I hope that Canadians
don't
really think that our TSA knows what the hell they're doing: no one I know does.
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From: Jaimie Vernon <bullseyecanada@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Fri, April 29, 2011 11:21:35 PM
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And OJ Simpson was innocent too!
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> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:24:04 -0700
> From: wesdym@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: Fwd: Fw: How Big is Walmart?
> To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> From: Jaimie Vernon <bullseyecanada@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, April 29, 2011 12:15:13 PM
> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: Fwd: Fw: How Big is Walmart?
>
> Why does radio play Billy Preston & Michael Jackson (both pedophiles) or Cat
> Stevens (a proven supporter of Middle Eastern terrorists)?
>
>
> Whoa, whoa, whoa.
>
> For the record, neither Preston or Jackson were ever convicted of
> paedophilia.
> Further, the clinical definition refers strictly to pre-pubescent children.
>Both
>
> were accused of inappropriate conduct with or towards older kids. In the case
>of
>
> Preston, the kids would be legal adults in many parts of the world, and have
> some of the rights of adults even in many parts of North America. Younger, in
> the case of Jackson, but still above the clinically defined age range of
> paedophiles. Call it what you want, but it's not proven and whether or not it
>is
>
> it's not paedophilia regardless. Psychology professor J. Michael Bailey
> (Northwestern Univ.) has speculated that Jackson had a complex of
> paraphilias,
> including hebephilia (an attraction to pubescent youth), which is distinctly
> different.
>
> Regardless, to lay the charge is to declare conviction, and I don't believe
> any
>
> of us can do that.
>
> Cat Stevens, as Yusuf Islam, is a devout Muslim teaching in London, who has
> repeatedly disclaimed violence in the name of religion (or any other reason),
> issued a statement of sympathy following 9/11 (also expressly disclaiming
> Islamic violence), performed "Peace Train" at the Concert for New York City,
>and
>
> donated a portion of proceeds from a later release to victims' families. He
> was
>
> denied entry to the U.S. on suspicion of supporting Hamas (based on
> never-validated charges by Israel), but it's likely this was due to someone
>else
>
> having a similar name. He successfully sued British media who claimed he
> supported terrorism. Those charges have never been "proven" by anyone,
>anywhere.
>
> There's a world of difference between suspicion and conviction, and I don't
>just
>
> mean in the legal sense.
>
>
>
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