[jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??
- From: "Paul Reynolds" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:11:46 +0100
Looking at your spec I checked the MSi site and noticed a potential hitch.,
there is an asterisk next to the 1600 memory module and I wondered about
that. Checking it, they've verified 2 x 2Gb Corsair chips but NOT 4 x 2gb
chips.
see http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-G45--B3-.html#?div=TestReport
and click on the memory Modules button.
Paul
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From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Fossil
Sent: 04 August 2011 16:41
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??
Fairly similar to my new setup except I have the Intel i7 2400k overclocked
to 4.5ghz on a Gigabyte Z68X board. Unlike you I stayed with W7 32bit to
avoid the 64bit headaches with older programs although this limits me to 4Gb
RAM.
Rather than a single huge hard drive why not consider a pair or smaller
ones? I?ve always done this as I can put the OS and general stuff on one
drive and all the FS programs and other games on the second drive.
bones
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http://woodair.net
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of adamreed@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 04 August 2011 14:55
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??
Thanks for the replys guys, much appreciated.
Right could i have your advice on this system set up then;
Case:Coolermaster 690 II Advanced
PSU: 650W Hale Modular NZXT
GPU: GeForce GTX 560Ti, 1gb.
CPU:Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3ghz overclocked to 4.5ghz (brought as a o'cd
bundle from scan.co.uk, comes with warranty) scan.co.uk
Cooler: Corsair H60
Mobo: MSI P67A-G45 Intel P67 Chipset
RAM: 8gb DDR3 1600Mhz. Corsair.
OS: Windows 7 64bit
Samsung 1Tb Spinpoint F3 Hard Drive - HDD
Would this run FSX nicely??
Thanks again.
Regards,
Adam Reed,
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Message Received: Aug 04 2011, 03:40 PM
From: "Paul Reynolds"
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??
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The guidelines for OEM re-activation is whether the machine is primarily the
same machine. As you may be aware, OEM stands for Original Equipment
Manufacturer and allows PC builders to supply windows pre-installed. MS
will retail OEM Windows cheaper because any compatability issues should be
resolved by the manufacturer not them. As you are looking at replacing both
the Motherboard and Processor, MS could ligitimately claim this is not the
same machine and refuse re-activation. They would advise you to seek
redress from the manufacturer. If you do the upgrade yourself that would be
you and a new copy of Windows would be required. Then you would have a
choice of useing another OEM or getting the full version which if you did
the same again would be trasferrable provided it is running only on one PC
at a time.
Paul
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From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Fossil
Sent: 02 August 2011 17:14
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??
Flight sims (or at least the MS products) were originally CPU intensive
because graphics cards in FS4 days were not that powerful. Despite the
evolution of the sim and the increasing need for a good graphics card it is
still true that the CPU does a lot of work so I suspect your Intel Core 2 is
throttling the system.
Dell, Compaq and HP machines used to require proprietary hardware which made
upgrading difficult and if this is still so your solution is correct. Get a
new case and bang in a new mobo/CPU/memory bundle. Add your PSU and GTX560
plus your hard drives and DVD player plus any other bits and pieces.
When you start the new machine Windows should run but it will probably come
up with a warning that new hardware has been detected and Windows will need
registering again. Depending on whether you had an OEM or full version this
may be OK or possibly MS may say no. I?ve had mixed results over the years
with them allowing some through but a couple of OEM upgrades were rejected.
bones
bones@xxxxxxx
http://woodair.net
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of adamreed@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 02 August 2011 15:35
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Computer upgrade advice please??
Hey Guys
Was speaking to Fred about this the other day as he has upgraded his pc,
anyway heres my story;
Right, I have a packard Bell intel core 2 quad Q8300 on a EG43M Motherboard.
Now I know I am VERY restricted to what I can upgrade on this as its
prebuilt (dont shoot me had it about 2 years I know I am silly), However I
brought a GTX 560ti from Scan and a 650w PSU a few weeks back.
I use Microsoft?s flight simulator, and have been told I am bottlenecking
quite badly with this as i am still getting poor FPS in flight simulators.
I've been advised that flight Sims run mostly off CPU not GPU, so how can i
go about upgrading this?
Would I be right in saying I could buy a case and then a CPU & Motherboard
and id be able to do this??
by the way, ive looked on Scan and found a prebuilt over clocked bundle,
Smart - Intel Core i5 2500K - Over clocked to 4.5Ghz - Updated August.
Does this sound viable or am I way off?? Also wasn?t looking to spend any
more than around £350 if that?s possible??
Thanks a lot, Adam.
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