[jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??

  • From: "Frank Fisher" <ffisher991@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:05:10 +0100

Adam
Even better, would be a 32 or 64 gb SSD for the OS and a 1 TB HDD for apps, ie 
FSX
Frank
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: adamreed@xxxxxxxxxx 
  To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:47 PM
  Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??


  Thanks for that Bones

  Yeah i was thinking about getting 2 smaller ones, 

  Will these 2 below be ok you think??

  Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB Hard Drive - HDD SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 16MB Cache, 
8.9ms, NCQ
  x 2 ??






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    Message Received: Aug 04 2011, 04:41 PM
    From: "Fossil" 
    To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Cc: 
    Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??



    Fairly similar to my new setup except I have the Intel i7 2400k overclocked 
to 4.5ghz on a Gigabyte Z68X board. Unlike you I stayed with W7 32bit to avoid 
the 64bit headaches with older programs although this limits me to 4Gb RAM.



    Rather than a single huge hard drive why not consider a pair or smaller 
ones? I’ve always done this as I can put the OS and general stuff on one drive 
and all the FS programs and other games on the second drive.



    bones



    bones@xxxxxxx

    http://woodair.net




    From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of adamreed@xxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: 04 August 2011 14:55
    To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??




    Thanks for the replys guys, much appreciated.

    Right could i have your advice on this system set up then;

    Case:Coolermaster 690 II Advanced
    PSU: 650W Hale Modular NZXT
    GPU: GeForce GTX 560Ti, 1gb.
    CPU:Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3ghz overclocked to 4.5ghz (brought as a o'cd 
bundle from scan.co.uk, comes with warranty) scan.co.uk
    Cooler: Corsair H60
    Mobo: MSI P67A-G45 Intel P67 Chipset
    RAM: 8gb DDR3 1600Mhz. Corsair.
    OS: Windows 7 64bit
    Samsung 1Tb Spinpoint F3 Hard Drive - HDD

    Would this run FSX nicely??

    Thanks again.




    Regards,

    Adam Reed,
    adamreed@xxxxxxxxxx








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    Message Received: Aug 04 2011, 03:40 PM
    From: "Paul Reynolds" 
    To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Cc: 
    Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??

    Message 

    The guidelines for OEM re-activation is whether the machine is primarily 
the same machine.  As you may be aware, OEM stands for Original Equipment 
Manufacturer and allows PC builders to supply windows pre-installed.  MS will 
retail OEM Windows cheaper because any compatability issues should be resolved 
by the manufacturer not them. As you are looking at replacing both the 
Motherboard and Processor, MS could ligitimately claim this is not the same 
machine and refuse re-activation.  They would advise you to seek redress from 
the manufacturer. If you do the upgrade yourself that would be you and a new 
copy of Windows would be required.  Then you would have a choice of useing 
another OEM or getting the full version which if you did the same again would 
be trasferrable provided it is running only on one PC at a time.



    Paul

      -----Original Message-----
      From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Fossil
      Sent: 02 August 2011 17:14
      To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [jhb] Re: Computer upgrade advice please??

      Flight sims (or at least the MS products) were originally CPU intensive 
because graphics cards in FS4 days were not that powerful. Despite the 
evolution of the sim and the increasing need for a good graphics card it is 
still true that the CPU does a lot of work so I suspect your Intel Core 2 is 
throttling the system.



      Dell, Compaq and HP machines used to require proprietary hardware which 
made upgrading difficult and if this is still so your solution is correct. Get 
a new case and bang in a new mobo/CPU/memory bundle. Add your PSU and GTX560 
plus your hard drives and DVD player plus any other bits and pieces.



      When you start the new machine Windows should run but it will probably 
come up with a warning that new hardware has been detected and Windows will 
need registering again. Depending on whether you had an OEM or full version 
this may be OK or possibly MS may say no. I’ve had mixed results over the years 
with them allowing some through but a couple of OEM upgrades were rejected.







      bones



      bones@xxxxxxx

      http://woodair.net



      From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of adamreed@xxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: 02 August 2011 15:35
      To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [jhb] Computer upgrade advice please??



      Hey Guys 
      Was speaking to Fred about this the other day as he has upgraded his pc, 
anyway heres my story;


      Right, I have a packard Bell intel core 2 quad Q8300 on a EG43M 
Motherboard. 

      Now I know I am VERY restricted to what I can upgrade on this as its 
prebuilt (dont shoot me had it about 2 years I know I am silly), However I 
brought a GTX 560ti from Scan and a 650w PSU a few weeks back. 

      I use Microsoft’s flight simulator, and have been told I am bottlenecking 
quite badly with this as i am still getting poor FPS in flight simulators. 

      I've been advised that flight Sims run mostly off CPU not GPU, so how can 
i go about upgrading this? 

      Would I be right in saying I could buy a case and then a CPU & 
Motherboard and id be able to do this?? 

      by the way, ive looked on Scan and found a prebuilt over clocked bundle, 

      Smart - Intel Core i5 2500K - Over clocked to 4.5Ghz - Updated August. 

      Does this sound viable or am I way off?? Also wasn’t looking to spend any 
more than around £350 if that’s possible?? 

      Thanks a lot, Adam. 










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