Something also worth considering, Windows itself, is not free from flaws, and since a screen reader such as Jaws, is designed to work based on imformation from the o/s, it's never going to be flawless. With this in mind, people experiecing problems, should try to gain as much of an understanding of their computer, to help them decide whether it is a Jaws, or Windows, or hardware, or software problem. Not always an easy task for even the most experienced users. Ricque E-Mail: ricque@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Windows Messenger: ricque@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:24 AM Subject: Re: updating JFW hi. As a former beta tester, I can say that the beta testing time on aversion of JAWS was around a month, possibly 2 or 3 if there were problems with the code base, and problems people were having. I think that it really all depended on the features they wanted to implement and wether it was working well for most people. So you had a lot of factors there. and you couldn't be more right when you talk about so many different configurations and setups. I give the programmers a lot of credit, they have to worry about features being implemented, making sure that it works internally first, and then releasing it to beta testers who further test it before it finally reaches everybody else. So there's a lot to think about there. Making sure your computer is set up properly to work with the FS software will go a long long way to fixing half the problems people have. If they still have problems, then it's probably more of a windows issue, because like any other thing on your system, JAWS is just that, a program that runs on top of the operating system rather than being something built right into it. At 12:45 AM 2/13/2006, you wrote: >I would totally agree with Bruce. I downloaded Jaws version 7 the >day it was released and have been using it on two Dell dimension >4700s with 512 MB of RAM and Win XP and service pack 2, and on my >home system with Win XP Home and have not had any of these problems >mentioned on the list. > >But with so many possible configurations of hardware, and software I >suppose it's really difficult to discover these problems before a >release. I wonder how extensively JFW versions are beta tested >before their general release. And how would this compare to the >number of beta testers for general market stuff like Microsoft >products? I suspect this is one of the serious challenges >specialized software vendors like Freedom Scientific have to deal with. > >Brian > >From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:29 >Subject: Re: updating JFW > > >>This shows you how subjective this sort of thing can be. In my >>personal opinion version 7 is one of the more stable releases >>they've had in quite some time. When you ask a question like that, >>you'll get ten different opinions from ten different people, each >>opinion equally valid. >> >>Bruce >> >>-- >>Bruce Toews >>E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx >>Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net >>Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >> >>On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Keith Gillard wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>In my opinion I would stick with 6.2 and wait until 7.1 is released before >>>installing 7. I have used both and feel 6.2 is more stable and less buggy. >>> >>>hth...Keith >>>. >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Bobcat" <bobcat11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: "jfw mailing list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:37 AM >>>Subject: updating JFW >>> >>> >>>I only recently started using JFW. I have my original 6.0 CD and I just got >>>the 7.0 CD. I have a new computer. I installed 6.0 on it but am not >>>impressed with JFW performance on it. Seems to stop talking at times. I >>>can bring up WindowEyes when this happens but the system is hard to shut >>>down. >>> >>>I'm wondering if I should install 7.0 or if I should install one of the >>>intermediate versions such as 6.2. >>> >>>BTW: I have done some suggested configuration on the new computer for >>>screen reader compatibility. I have not installed any software on the new >>>computer yet. I have disabled some of the unnecessary HP software and have >>>obtained all updates. >>> >>> >>>-- >>>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to >>>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw >>> >>>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the >>>way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the >>>list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>-- >>>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to >>>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw >>> >>>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the >>>list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the >>>list. 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