When mine was doing this I found out that running jaws from the system tray stopped it. Give it a try. HTH Mark -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricque Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:48 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: something strange after my computer started Hi Nicol, Try this: After your computer starts, and Jaws stops talking, press alt tab, then check the title bar. I have several machines that exhibit this behavior, and Jaws simply doesn't have the focus when on the desktop at this time. Once I alt tab, life is good. HTH, Richard Justice www.blind-computing.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "nicol" <nicoljacobus@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:14 AM Subject: something strange after my computer started > HI > I'm using windows xp professional service pack 2. After my computer > started > I'm suppose to be on the desktop but if I press insert+t jaws remains > silent. If I then press insert+f1 jaws says: jaws may not recognize this > control. If I press tab then I'm on the desktop. > Jaws is only suppose to say this if I'm in an application which doesn't > has > standard controls, whose controls is custom. This cause no problem for > me, > I'm just curious as to why jaws says: jaws may not recognize this control, > if I press insert+f1 just after my computer started after I find that > insert+t says nothing? > It seems as if jaws couldn't at that moment recognize that I'm on the > desktop so maybe it's a bug in jaws, but as I say this only happens > after my computer started. If my computer is booting up and then jaws > says: jaws for windows is ready > and I hear the tune playing to let me know windows is up and running, then > after that tune played I wait a moment for jaws to say that I'm on the > desktop, but then jaws says nothing and its then when I press insert+t > that > jaws says nothing and if I then press insert+f1 jaws says: jaws may not > recognize this control. > If it is that no window has focus, then jaws should rather say: no window > is active. But seemingly this is another type of non focus which jaws sees > as a custom control not defined in its window classes. Btw I'm using > jaws7, > at this stage I can't afford jaws8. > > -- > JFW related links: > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > Scripting mailing list: > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > JFW List instructions: > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, > or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx