Adrian, I do all that when I'm typing a document. With jaws, you can hit the jaws key, the number 3 on the numb pad and get the page you are on in the document, the number of pages in the document and the line you are on. I use this function all the time. I also remember doing all my writing on a typewriter, there was nothing you could do there. You couldn't hear your document, you couldn't edit and the only way you had to correct anything was when someone sighted read it back to you. Again, the problem is I work quickly, too quickly for my own good. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: setting to announce "select all"?
Let's see. I think I can make this JAWS-related because, in fact, there are specific JAWS techniques to compensate for a sighted person's being able to see an error without even trying.Whenever I copy and paste material, I double-check with my arrow keys to make sure that the text immediately above and below is intact. When I paste that text, I double-check with the arrow keys that I've dropped it right where I wanted.If I save all with control-a followed by any other command, I make sure that what's left behind is what I planned, whether a blank document or the text I meant to keep.Before saving a document, I always check with insert-t that I'm saving the document I mean to. That's a habit. If I've done any major operations in that document, not only do I use the arrow keys to check the text in the neighborhood, I also go to the end of the document with control-end and make sure it has about as many pages as I expected. then I save it.If I've made no major changes, I generally just save, which I do every few minutes.Note also that MS Word, which I assume you use, should have a backup utility that will automatically back up a document every however many minutes you specify. Because I use WordPerfect, I can't give you those directions. Moreover, I've run out of any justification to appease James about this subject being off-topic.We're all racing, Judith. The trick is to get into the habit of pausing before taking any drastic action. Not so long ago, we had to write on typewriters, which gave blind users no room for error or even the means to check if errors had been made.----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>No Adrian, you understand. I save my work quite often as I go along and I save it before I realize that most of it is no longer there. Is there a one pill cure for stupidity?----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>I'm trying to understand what you're now saying. First you select all with control-a, as you intend. Then you delete with control-d by mistake. Then you save with control-s? This is not one, but two mistakes, if I understand you correctly. Maybe you could clarify.Oops, I've just realized your question is off-topic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Control z sometimes works but when I press control s before I realize what has happened it's useless. I would like to know other methods of retriebving documents, any advice would be appreciated. Judith----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Judith,If you accidentally delete all the text in a document like that, the first thing to do is press control-z, the undo command. I imagine MS Word has additional related commands. I use WordPerfect, which allows me to correct not only the mistake I just made, but also several mistakes preceding it, each in turn. There are also Windows methods for restoring lost files. Once a seemingly cataclysmic mistake has been made, perhaps the first thing to do is sit back and take a deep breath. The material can almost always be salvaged after a moment's thought.----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>The problem is that while I'm typing a document evidently I press control A and then, while I think I am pressing control S I must be pressing control D. Hours of work sent to oblivion. Outside of working slower and being more cognizant of what I am doing while concentrating on my writing is something I must learn. However, if there was a way for jaws to announce that I just selected the entire document would sure help. Thanks, Judith ----- Original Message -----From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>The sole purpose of control-a is to select the entire document. If the problem is that you're finding JAWS starts reading the selected text but a paste-and-copy key sequence doesn't transfer the entire document to a new location, my guess is that you're moving too quickly. When I select all with control-a, I wait a heartbeat or two before pressing the control-c copy command. It never fails, so long as I pause after control-a.----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Christopher, Where do I find the "select all script"? Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Judith, I suppose you could modify the "SelectAll" script so that JAWS speaks the message when the key is pressed, but that's all I can think of for now. May play around with that script to see if I can do it and post the code to the scripting list that I'm on, which, if you're not on already, can be subscribed through the Blind Programming site(http://www.blindprogramming.com). Hope that helps. On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:31:03 -0400, "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: Is there akeystroke that would announce when someone selects an entire document? 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