Re: rooting question
- From: "Mike & Barbara" <mb69mach1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:17:19 -0700
Hi Michael;
You ask some very good questions, questions that I can't give clear answers
to! I am pretty much self taught with the use of Jaws and therefore my
using the correct terminology / terms, sucks. I have learned a great deal
through the various lists, reading training material, and save a hell of a
lot of notes, which helps a lot. One of the notes was the information that
I posted for routing cursors and my saved notes always have the person's
name that provided the information at the bottom of the info. I can't
recall a circumstance where I have had to route the PC cursor to the Jaws
cursor but, I route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor quite often. 1 example
is if I want to know the size of a file / drive, I highlight the file /
drive, press the applications / context menu key, press enter on properties,
route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, press the page up key, and arrow
down 1 line at a time. You can get a lot of information on things doing
this. That is just 1 example. I would imagine that the different ways to
use the different cursors is infinite depending on what job you are
performing. I'm sorry that I couldn't have been more of a help. Take care.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary King
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: rooting question
Michael,
Have you gone through the Basic Training materials provided for JAWS? If
not, I think it would help you understand how the various cursors are
used,
along with other screen reading concepts.
In my former life as a rehab engineer, from which I am happily retired, I
always thought that the training materials available for JFW were one of
its
greatest strengths. I also thought that the other major screen reader was
seriously lacking in this area.
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Arnowitt" <foodsong@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: rooting question
> Mike,
>
> Thank you for posting this as I have been a little confused by the terms
> Jaws cursor and PC cursor as I use different terms for the cursors. But
to
> clarify things even more, could you give me an example of a situation
> where you would want to route PC to Jaws cursor, and one where you would
> want to route Jaws to PC cursor? Because if I'm understanding correctly
> what you posted and the Jaws cursor is essentially what I would call the
> mouse pointer, then I don't get when you would be using it as I assume
we
> are all here trying to do things without using the mouse.
>
> Let me also ask another thing, maybe this is related. When you do a say
> all, is the cursor moving around the screen as the say all progresses
the
> Jaws cursor or the PC cursor, or something else? On my computer, I think
> if I have what I call the text cursor (is that the same thing as the PC
> cursor?) at the beginning of a paragraph and start a say all and then
halt
> the say all with control, I find sometimes - when I'm in my word
> processor - the text cursor is now where I halted the say all, but other
> times - when I'm in my e-mail program - the text cursor is still at the
> beginning of the paragraph, and if I do the route PC to Jaws that moves
> the text cursor to where I stopped the say all. Does this make any
sense,
> or do I have something set wrong in one or the other program?
>
> Best,
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> At 09:11 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:
>>Hi Jenny;
>>
>>Below is information about what you are looking for.
>>Routing jaws to PC cursor This is better described as moving the mouse
>>pointer to the PC cursor position. You achieve this by pressing insert
>>plus the num pad minus key. Pressing the arrow keys will now move the
>>mouse pointer around the screen. However importantly you will not be
able
>>to "scroll" the pages you are viewing down. To do this you must return
to
>>PC cursor.
>>
>>Routing PC to Jaws This then becomes moving PC cursor to mouse position.
>>You achieve this by pressing insert plus num pad + Moving the cursor
will
>>enable Jaws to control objects on the screen and for example scroll down
a
>>multi page document or web page.
>>
>>The final thing is to remember restrictions. Sometime in Jaws or Mouse
>>pointer mode you do not want to move around the whole screen but want
to
>>keep within an application or frame. You can toggle these restrictions
by
>>pressing insert plus R. If your jaws cursor does not appear to be going
>>anywhere you probably need to set unrestricted movement by pressing
insert
>>plus R until you hear unrestricted.
>>
>>Hope this is not too confusing.
>>
>>David Griffith
>>
>
>
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