I think Nicole must have meant left thumb on the alt key. The only movement necessary from the typing home position would be to hang the right hand on the insert key at the bottom left corner of the numpad, left thumb on alt and S with the left ring finger. Voila! All the troubles go away. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:53 AM Subject: Re: one's finger positions on the keyboard Nicole, I just tried to do what you suggestbelow, even though, as someone who's typed since I was in high school many years ago, I knew what would happen. Generally, to press the left alt key, I remove my fingers from the home row, reach down with my left index finger to find the space bar, then slide that finger to the left over the break to find the Alt key and press it. There is absolutely no way I can contort my left hand so that, from the home position, I can find and press the left alt key with my left pinkie. In fact, I couldn't even find and press the left *control* key, far to the left of the alt key instead of underneath as the Alt key is. And then to press the S key as usual, with the left ring finger? This is a contortion I'd be amazed to see anyone accomplish. Maybe I haven't understood your directions correctly? In any case, since I adjusted things in keyboard manager, I've got a keystroke I can perform, and so all's well. an ---- Original Message ----- From: "Nicol Oosthuizen" <NOosthuizen@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 1:50 AM Subject: one's finger positions on the keyboard NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf ---- Hi I have noticed that on the list it was often discussed to change keystrokes in keyboard manager which are difficult to stretch one's fingers to use them. I'm not trying to discourage people to use keyboard manager, feel free to assign a feature to a key stroke which is most conveniently for you. I just thought of letting everyone know that I can easily press alt+insert+s, the keystroke for selecting a speech scheme, its very easy. do the following: Place your fingers on the home row as is taught in typing with your index fingers on the f and j keys. Now place your left pinkie on the left alt key. Now you can use any right hand finger to hold down the insert key on the number pad.Now tap the s with your left ring finger. Its really easy; I don't find it difficult at all. But don't feel discouraged to use keyboard manager, I just thought of letting everybody know that I personally find it easy to press alt+insert+s. sincerely-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/745 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 12:48 PM -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx