Re: my issue with Firefox

  • From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:49:24 -0500

I'm afraid that's not quite correct.  Windows Live mail is not the e-mail 
client which comes with Vista; it's Windows Mail.  Windows Live mail (a 
completely separate client) really sucks so far as accessibility is 
concerned.  So, here's what I understand.  IF you switch to Windows 7, you'd 
better be prepared to use either Windows Live mail, or else some other 
client such as Thunderbird.

Sincerely,
The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray

"Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad you 
come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own land"
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Orhan Deniz" <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Parham Doustdar" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox


Hi Parham,
Yes, it looks like there isn't going to be an e-mail client in Windows7.
People could download windows Live mail, which is like OE, or windows mail 
in vista.

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on Saturday, 25 April 2009, at 8:20:24 PM, Parham Doustdar wrote:
As I have heard from Slashdot, it will be discontinued from the time Windows
seven comes out. Not sure if it will be so, though. You never know with
Microsoft.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Homuth" <james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: RE: my issue with Firefox


> Outlook Express hasn't necessarily been discontinued. It's just been
> renamed
> to Windows Mail and incorporated into Vista. And I'm told it works just as
> well with JAWS as OE ever did. Which may or may not be saying much; I've
> never used it.

> James,
> List Admin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Parham Doustdar
> Sent: April 25, 2009 12:24 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox

> Yes, fortunately. :)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:56 PM
> Subject: RE: my issue with Firefox


>> Outlook Express discontinued? Didn't know.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Glen Jan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:41 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox


>> Unlike Outlook Express which is to be discontinued, Firefox is under
>> continual development and isn't restricted by the Microsoft kernel. Glen

>> At 11:43 pm 25-04-2009, you wrote:
>>>Unfortunately, like Firefox, Thunderbird support isn't as good as
>>>Outlook Express support when considered from Jaws' side. One of the
>>>features I use a lot in Outlook and I can't use in Thunderbird is
>>>threading. The other thing is that attachments wouldn't be announced
>>>as the first thing like in Outlook. Apart from that, if you ever
>>>forget whether you had read this message or not, you're stuck,
>>>because, Jaws, again, wouldn't announce "unread".
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>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 3:19 PM
>>>Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox


>>>>Just wanted to jump in here and report that last night, Firefox passed
>>>>both
>>>>the:
>>>>www.amazon.com
>>>>and the:
>>>>www.dominos.com
>>>>tests.  Looks like Access Bridge did the trick!  Many many thanks!!!
>>>>Now,
>>>>just have to deside whetdecide not to reinstall and get used to
>> Thunderbird
>>>>again.  Anyone care to try to thus persuade me?

>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray

>>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad
>>>>you come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your
>>>>own land" George Seferis

>>>>Phone or Fax::
>>>>+1 (985) 360-3375
>>>>Cell:
>>>>+1 (985) 719-2938
>>>>e-mail:
>>>>rforetjratcomcastdotnet
>>>>Skype Name:
>>>>barefootedray

>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
>>>><Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:13 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox


>>>>Never had that problem. Are you trying www.att.net

>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Wren Langley" <wrenlangley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:07 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox

>>>>Thanks very much for this information. I really like Firefox.

>>>>Do you know why some sites can't be found on the firefox server? I
>>>>tried to go to an AT&t, without the and sign, but it said the site
>>>>could not be found on their server. I was just wondring.

>>>>God Bless,

>>>>Wren

>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:19 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox

>>>>Ray,

>>>>Here's the Sun Java page with a description of Access Bridge and links
>>>>for downloading current version 2.0.1:

>>>>http://java.sun.com/products/accessbridge/

>>>>Note. I didn't bother with the special Sun download manager, as
>>>>recommended on that page. I just clicked on the Access Bridge link
>>>>itself, saved to my desktop, and then let the application's wizard
>>>>take over. It's a very smooth process.

>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:14 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox

>>>>So, I reinstall Java access bridge then? Where can I find that;
>>>>assuming I lost it somewhere? Sounds like your help has so far been
>>>>the most helpful. Thanks.

>>>>Sincerely, The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray

>>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years abroad
>>>>you come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your
>>>>own land" George Seferis

>>>>Phone or Fax::
>>>>+1 (985) 360-3375
>>>>Cell:
>>>>+1 (985) 719-2938
>>>>e-mail: rforetjratcomcastdotnet Skype Name: barefootedray

>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:08 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: my issue with Firefox

>>>>Hi, Gerald and Ray,

>>>>I had many of these problems with Amazon and other websites until I
>>>>handled Java correctly. Each time I accept a Java update, I go back to
>>>>my Java Access Bridge .exe file and reinstall it, as Sun Micro
>>>>recommends. this two-step procedure has solved almost all my Web
>>>>problems using Firefox, which has numerous advantages over IE7,
>>>>including speed at opening pages, low generation of temporary files,
>>>>the Webvisum feature, and so on. I have the latest release of JAWS 10
>>>>and XP.
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 8:04 AM

>>>>To be perfectly honest Ray, I have so many issues with Firefox that I
>>>>use it only for the Webvisum image captia feature. I find that JAWS
>>>>does not always announce the contents of a web page accurately, and of
>>>>course, there is no audible notification of RSS feeds. I have never
>>>>encountered any problem with Amazon.com using IE 7.

>>>>Gerald
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:49 AM
>>>>Subject: my issue with Firefox

>>>>I really loved Firefox. Why loved instead of love, simple. When I went
>>>>to: www.dominos.com to order Pizza one night, Firefox kept crashing on
>>>>me every single time I went to add my order to their shopping card.
>>>>This also happened every single time I tried to log on to:
>>>>www.amazon.com and I could get no help at all from tech support what
>>>>so ever. The forum was worse than useless and no matter what I tried,
>>>>I just couldn't get it to work. Has anybody else out there had this
>>>>happen; and, if so, what were you able to do to fix it; if it was
>>>>fixable?

>>>>Also, I noticed that JAWS was not reading Firefox dialogs such as
>>>>security alerts such as when you are about to open a secure page ETC.

>>>>Sincerely, The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray

>>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years abroad
>>>>you come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your
>>>>own land" George Seferis

>>>>Phone or Fax::
>>>>+1 (985) 360-3375
>>>>Cell:
>>>>+1 (985) 719-2938
>>>>e-mail: rforetjratcomcastdotnet Skype Name: barefootedray

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