Re: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!

  • From: "Terrill Reynolds" <terrill1@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:28:45 -0400

No I did not use the merge, I never use the merge.  I think your
mistaken about the Mac, for sure Microsoft will always have the private
market, but Mac is already moving into schools and have been in many
schools for years, and government agencies as we speak; so do not be so
quick to judge the future from what happened forty some years ago.  Mac
did not spend all that money hiring outside contractors to build a full
screen reader into their operating system because their kind, their
doing it to comply with government accessibility laws and unless
Microsoft does the same they will be the computer for the personal user
and Mac will be the choice for the government as it is in most schools
and government agencies already.  If you've not looked at a new Mac
lately, you have a wrong view of a Mac, there's nothing that a Mac can
not do that  windows can, simply windows has the personal market but Mac
will take over government contracts, it's already happening.
Regards,
Terrill Reynolds,
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!


As for your MSN problem... by any chance did you run the merge utility
when
you installed 6.1? If so try this. Reinstall 6.1. Before using Merge
remove
any and all MSN scripts from the 6.0 folder. This will leave the scripts
that were installed with 6.1 to run MSN.

As for the Mac situation. They said the same about the Apple in the
eighties
in the education field. I think you'll find that once the newness of the
current Mac versions wears off and people find out how limited they are
the
PC's will find themselves back in to offices, just as they did in the
education sector. I have nothing against Mac's, just realize what they
are
and what they are and are not capable of.



Thanks; Gene

On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <terrill1@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!


> first that is great that it works for you and your wife I am happy for
> you, but that does not address the problem of the ones who it is not
> working for other than to say it works for you, great but there is a
> problem because it is not working for everyone.
> second whether MAC works with more applications or not, the whole
reason
> they included a full free screen reader was for the very reason of
> getting some of these state contracts and comply with accessibility in
> laws in government funded workplace.  My school has already switched
to
> Mac and so have many other agencies; so it really does not matter how
> many applications Mac does or does not work with because the way
things
> are going, if you want a government job in the future you had better
> know how to use a Mac.
> Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds,
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> Terrill1@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!
>
>
> Two problems here. First, for most people using XP Home or Media
Center
> that
> I know Messenger 6.2 works just fine with the U update... including
both
> mine and my wife's computers. Secondly, Mac is no replacement for DOS
> based
> PC's unless you are doing specific applications. Generally software is
a
> lot
> easier to find and is much more frequently written for Windows than
for
> Mac.
>
>
>
> Thanks; Gene
>
> On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Terrill Reynolds" <terrill1@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!
>
>
>> Hi, MSN 6.2 does not work for me either with Jaws 6101006u_ILM.  When
> I
>> install Jaws, 6101006u_ILM, MSN 6.2 stops reading everything with the
>> jaws curser or anything.  Even uninstalling Jaws 6101006u_ILM does
not
>> let the other versions on my computer work any longer with MSN 6.2,
it
>> breaks them also.  The only thing I can do is to uninstall all
> versions
>> of jaws, clean the registry and start new with the only version that
>> does work with MSN 6.2, which is jaws6.0.  I have talked to freedom
>> scientific and the first time they told me to hit the alt key twice
> and
>> this would fix it, well guess what it did not, and even if it did, it
> is
>> not an acceptable fix for me.  The second person I talked to said
that
>> this was a known problem and their working on it, finally the third
>> person I talked to said it is not a problem and no one else has
> reported
>> it which I know is an absolute lie as I have talked to at least three
>> other people who have reported the exact same problem using Jaws
>> 6101006u_ILM and had to go back to jaws 6.0as well.  To me MSN
> messenger
>> is one of the most important programs since it is how I keep in touch
>> with many people around the world, and business associates; but since
> it
>> is not high on the state agencies list, it gets very little attention
>> from freedom scientific.  The least I would expect from a product
that
>> costs so much which I am paying out of my pocket is to keep the
> features
>> it already has working before releasing a half baked, bug riddled
>> product.  I encourage anyone who is having this problem to report it.
>> At the very least, I expect a company to acknowledge that there is a
>> problem and not to just deny it exists and hope it goes away.  The
> last
>> person I talked to wanted me to install Jaws 6101006u_ILM so he can
> hear
>> it does not work with MSN 6.2, which I refused, I'm not stupid and
> have
>> been through this 3 times with the same results and will not install
a
>> product that is going to cause me to have to uninstall all versions
of
>> jaws, clean the registry and go back to jaws 6.0, go through making
> all
>> the settings right again; the last version that actually works with
> MSN
>> 6.2.  If people do not start complaining to some of these state
> agencies
>> who have the contracts nothing will ever get done.  If you think
> Freedom
>> Scientific cares about the average user who pays our of their pocket
>> your extremely mistaken, the only way we will ever get them to
improve
>> and care about their average customers is to complain to the
> government
>> agencies who are allowing them to treat us this way by giving them
>> contracts I feel they do not deserve as long as they keep putting out
>> junk.  My school has already switched to MAC, which comes with a full
>> screen reader free right out of the box and window eyes is catching
up
>> on the office programs.  In short writing to freedom scientific is
> going
>> to get you nothing more than a blow off which frankly is insulting to
>> me, complain to your state agencies, senators anyone but freedom
>> scientific if you ever want them to listen to the average user.  They
>> make their product for government contracts and could care less about
>> you and I who pay for this over priced product out of our pocket.
>>
>> Also, since XP and XP pro are essentially the same why are we still
>> paying higher price for XP pro, they do not have to do any more than
>> they already do to make jaws work with any versions of XP; I can tell
>> you why it is because mostly government agencies use XP pro so they
> know
>> that they can charge more and the government will pay extra for it
> while
>> they do absolutely no extra work at all to make it work with any XP
>> version.  I intend to call every state agency I can, my senator and
>> congressional representative; if we do not make noise we will not be
>> heard since we are the minority we must join to get any changes made
> or
>> keep getting bug filled over charged products.  Nothing is changing
> the
>> way were doing things now, it is time to go in a different direction
> and
>> hit them in their pockets which is the only thing that they actually
>> give a damn about.  I for one am sick of paying for products full of
>> bugs and workarounds for formally working applications and intend to
>> take action more than calling freedom scientific, which ultimately
> will
>> get you nowhere.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Terrill Reynolds,
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>> Terrill1@xxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Terrill Reynolds,
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "serrebi" <serrebi101@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:57 PM
>> Subject: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> I'm running the latest versioni of jfwv6.1, and msn conversations are
>> not being read, even with the jaws cursor. Any suggestions.
>> P.s. I'm new, go easy! lol
>> Brandon
>>
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