RE: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!

  • From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:31:57 -0700

Hi,=20


first that is great that it works for you and your wife I am happy for
you, but that does not address the problem of the ones who it is not
working for other than to say it works for you, great but there is a
problem because it is not working for everyone.
Only a few people are able to reproduce a problem it becomes harder to
fix a problem.  It might help if you provide specks on your system to
fs.  All other people who are having this problem should also do the
same.  This will determent  if there is some thing in calmen.=20

 second whether MAC works with more applications or not, the whole
reason they included a full free screen reader was for the very reason
of getting some of these state contracts and comply with accessibility
in laws in government funded workplace.  My school has already switched
to Mac and so have many other agencies; so it really does not matter how
many applications Mac does or does not work with because the way things
are going, if you want a government job in the future you had better
know how to use a Mac. Regards, Terrill Reynolds,
The above may or may not be true I do not see how ever how this helps
you resolve your msn issues. You could make the above statement also for
linux.  Oh and there are more government agencies using it then mac.
Mostly mac is being used by schools.  This has always been true.  The
fact that mac has taking so long to produce a software package that
truly works with it and the fact they do not provide sdks with out
charging a lot of money for them makes me a little concerned when people
start talking about switching to mac.  Of course we have this wonderful
thing call freedom so if you want to switch do it. =20
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!


Two problems here. First, for most people using XP Home or Media Center
that I know Messenger 6.2 works just fine with the U update... including
both mine and my wife's computers. Secondly, Mac is no replacement for
DOS based PC's unless you are doing specific applications. Generally
software is a lot easier to find and is much more frequently written for
Windows than for Mac.



Thanks; Gene

On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Terrill Reynolds" <terrill1@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!


> Hi, MSN 6.2 does not work for me either with Jaws 6101006u_ILM.  When
I
> install Jaws, 6101006u_ILM, MSN 6.2 stops reading everything with the=20
> jaws curser or anything.  Even uninstalling Jaws 6101006u_ILM does not

> let the other versions on my computer work any longer with MSN 6.2, it

> breaks them also.  The only thing I can do is to uninstall all
versions
> of jaws, clean the registry and start new with the only version that=20
> does work with MSN 6.2, which is jaws6.0.  I have talked to freedom=20
> scientific and the first time they told me to hit the alt key twice
and
> this would fix it, well guess what it did not, and even if it did, it
is
> not an acceptable fix for me.  The second person I talked to said that

> this was a known problem and their working on it, finally the third=20
> person I talked to said it is not a problem and no one else has
reported
> it which I know is an absolute lie as I have talked to at least three=20
> other people who have reported the exact same problem using Jaws=20
> 6101006u_ILM and had to go back to jaws 6.0as well.  To me MSN
messenger
> is one of the most important programs since it is how I keep in touch=20
> with many people around the world, and business associates; but since
it
> is not high on the state agencies list, it gets very little attention=20
> from freedom scientific.  The least I would expect from a product that

> costs so much which I am paying out of my pocket is to keep the
features
> it already has working before releasing a half baked, bug riddled=20
> product.  I encourage anyone who is having this problem to report it.=20
> At the very least, I expect a company to acknowledge that there is a=20
> problem and not to just deny it exists and hope it goes away.  The
last
> person I talked to wanted me to install Jaws 6101006u_ILM so he can
hear
> it does not work with MSN 6.2, which I refused, I'm not stupid and
have
> been through this 3 times with the same results and will not install a

> product that is going to cause me to have to uninstall all versions of

> jaws, clean the registry and go back to jaws 6.0, go through making
all
> the settings right again; the last version that actually works with
MSN
> 6.2.  If people do not start complaining to some of these state
agencies
> who have the contracts nothing will ever get done.  If you think
Freedom
> Scientific cares about the average user who pays our of their pocket=20
> your extremely mistaken, the only way we will ever get them to improve

> and care about their average customers is to complain to the
government
> agencies who are allowing them to treat us this way by giving them=20
> contracts I feel they do not deserve as long as they keep putting out=20
> junk.  My school has already switched to MAC, which comes with a full=20
> screen reader free right out of the box and window eyes is catching up

> on the office programs.  In short writing to freedom scientific is
going
> to get you nothing more than a blow off which frankly is insulting to=20
> me, complain to your state agencies, senators anyone but freedom=20
> scientific if you ever want them to listen to the average user.  They=20
> make their product for government contracts and could care less about=20
> you and I who pay for this over priced product out of our pocket.
>
> Also, since XP and XP pro are essentially the same why are we still=20
> paying higher price for XP pro, they do not have to do any more than=20
> they already do to make jaws work with any versions of XP; I can tell=20
> you why it is because mostly government agencies use XP pro so they
know
> that they can charge more and the government will pay extra for it
while
> they do absolutely no extra work at all to make it work with any XP=20
> version.  I intend to call every state agency I can, my senator and=20
> congressional representative; if we do not make noise we will not be=20
> heard since we are the minority we must join to get any changes made
or
> keep getting bug filled over charged products.  Nothing is changing
the
> way were doing things now, it is time to go in a different direction
and
> hit them in their pockets which is the only thing that they actually=20
> give a damn about.  I for one am sick of paying for products full of=20
> bugs and workarounds for formally working applications and intend to=20
> take action more than calling freedom scientific, which ultimately
will
> get you nowhere.
>
> Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds,
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> Terrill1@xxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Terrill Reynolds,
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "serrebi" <serrebi101@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:57 PM
> Subject: jaws 6.1 and msn messenger6.2 , not working!
>
>
> Hi
> I'm running the latest versioni of jfwv6.1, and msn conversations are=20
> not being read, even with the jaws cursor. Any suggestions. P.s. I'm=20
> new, go easy! lol Brandon
>
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