to me, eloquence sounds like a crack smoker."A friend is someone who knows the song in your heart and can sing it back to you when you have forgotten the words."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:05 AM Subject: RE: jaws 12:
I have hearing loss and Eloquence works for me, I can't understand DecTalk very well, sounds like he is a bit drunk to me. I only write this to prove that it is all subjective, I personally feel weshould all use what we feel comfortable with. I for example seldom if everuse the Real Speak voices, I have used them because FS said they were more human sounding but I don't care a lot for them, I understand them, just prefer to use Eloquence which is faster and more responsive. That said, you all can use whatever works for you. Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ptusing Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:53 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws 12: Hi, There is nothing wrong with Eloquence unless one happens toacquire some form of hearing loss. Access 32 has worked great and for those who need better clarity and intonation, it is excellent. I have had close friends with hearing loss who desperately need something of the quality of Access 32. If hearing loss adds to disability, then we should have access to what helps people. Again Eloquence is fine for many.If one works with nnumber sall day long, Access 32 makes life a whole loteasier.----- Original Message ----- From: "Yadiel Sotomayor" <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:34 PM Subject: Re: jaws 12:?What's all this about dectalk express 32? What's wrong with eloquence?Don't you think that since fs iis a partner of nuance you don't think thatit will prefer eloquence and realspeach over dectalk? Also, can't you buy an independent license? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Carman McCauley" <cmccauley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:03 AM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: jaws 12:Hi all This is strange, At home, using jaws version 11 on an xp machine dectalk access32 works okay. Tried it at work same os, does not work. This is not a gwmicro version of dectalk but a version form wurzweil. At work it works with version 10. So yes they broke something!!!! I will install version 12 and see what happens, I'll let you know on Monday. Carman -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: October 29, 2010 6:12 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws 12: I will definitely give this a try, and thank you very much. . . I knew they definitely have sabotaged the working of Dec_access32 and there is not a single potential of doubt of it, period. No discussion is possible since it is like claiming something is supported and then denying problems all in the same breath, blaming as you say GW-Micro. Proves there is an issue with the suit, seems to me, after all, and quite small of a so-called "leader" in screen readers, tiny and irresponsible and purely childish. Curtis Delzer. HS. to download the Haven cell phone tour. in part or in whole http://www.mysticplace.info/audio/haven for 6000 plus ring tones. http://www.sendspace.com/file/wch4yb on Thursday 10/28/2010 10:34 AM, Gary King said:Curtis, I went round and round with FS when they broke support for the version of DEC Access32 purchased from GW Micro in the JFW 11 Final Release. It worked all the way through the Public Beta of JFW 11 and in all previous versions of JFW. They never admitted to doing anything to break this support. I even wrote to Eric Damery, and he put me in touch with the JFW development team. That didn't do any good either. Even after I explained that this synthesizer had been working on my XP Home system for 5 years, they wanted to blame it on the GW Micro installation. They also wanted me to help them obtain a license for the synthesizer because they claimed they didn't own it. Of course, no licenses are available now from GW Micro. Now for the good news. I am still using DEC Access32 with both JFW 11 and 12. I'm not guarantying this method will work for anyone else. I have DEC Access32 set to be my Default synthesizer. Unfortunately, this results in Eloquence doing all the talking. By experimentation, I found that I could open Default.jcf in my User Settings folder and enter 4 into the Active equals line instead of the 5 that JFW uses for the DEC Access32 profile. I was never able to figure out why this works, but it does for me. The drawback to this work-around is that if I make any changes in the Voice Profile, my entry of 4 is replaced with 5 again, and I have to perform the replacement once more. You can try this work-around for yourself, but I can't provide any further help than I haveprovided here. I would be interested to know though if it works for you.Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:54 AM Subject: RE: jaws 12:Jaws 12? and why has FS given up support for Dec_access32 where it just will not either work or if it does at all, it stops immediately. That is what eleven did, and in tweleve, It will not even begin to work.(xp of course). I am aware that Vista and Windows 7 cannot use Dec_access32, but us XP users it works fine. JFW 10 has no problem with it, but not 11 or 12. Curtis Delzer. 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