Re: fs clipboard problem

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:37:19 -0800

Ack.  Okay, That's what I figured; the person does, I think, know that 
Control V is the paste command. So I don't know how a command involving the 
letter P got into this, still, or what to infer from the fact that the user 
says they hear "rint" spoken?

I haven't installed Jaws 7 yet, although it's not because this clipboard 
thread has dissuaded me.  But it's making my head spin, I have to admit. 
Well, I hope it all gets worked out for the person who's finding it awkward 
and frustrating.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem


The only way it would say print is if he was using control-P in Word
thinking that was the paste command, but it's the print command.
Control-V as in Victor to paste.

Jean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem


> Well, that's irrelevant, here, which is why I couldn't have guessed
> it.  The
> print view is simply one of the alternatives on the View menu as to
> how the
> document will be shown on the screen.  It looks more or less the way
> the doc
> will look when it's printed out.  The sides darken and come in a
> little so
> you can see the document as if it were a sheet of printed paper, the
> page
> numbers or headers you've set will show visually on the screen (the
> Jaws
> cursor can find them, also) instead of remaining hidden as in "normal
> view,"
> and some other things.  It's a useful preview of how your document is
> going
> to look when printed, pretty much useless and meaningless if you can't
> see
> it.  The usual recommendation with Jaws is to just set the View menu
> to show
> the "normal view," which I put in quotes because I don't really know
> what
> they mean, except maybe "unenhanced."
>
> anyway, it doesn't make any difference in any other way, except that
> for a
> Jaws user it's better to work with the normal view, they say,  You can
> always set it to Print View if someone wants to see how it'll look
> printed,
> but if no one's looking, it scarcely matters.  The ultimate result,
> whether
> on the computer or printed out, is completely unaffected by this
> print/normal thing.  That's just a display convenience.
>
> I hope maybe this is helpful.  And I have no idea why this person's
> Jaws is
> even saying "print," any more than I did in the first place.  Jaws
> doesn't
> say "print" anytime I can think of.  On the view menu, it says "pprint
> view," which is what is sritten there.  And when you issue the print
> command, it jus says "print."  But you can't be copying and pasting
> text
> when you're in the midst of printing a document.
>
> Scratching head, going back to kitchen to eat dinner.
>
> From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>
>
> I think that refers to the print view, as opposed to the normal view.
> And
> about that I know absolutely nothing beyond what I've just said.
> <GRIN>
>
> Bruce
>
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> On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Yardbird wrote:
>
>> Why is Word saying "Print" at all in this scenario?  You're copying
>> and
>> pasting text, not printing a document.  Do I misunderstand what you
>> are
>> doing at times like this?  Thanks for explaining.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicki Keck" <favorite.blend@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>
>>
>> For me, it is Word.  I will use FS clipboard to select, copy, and
>> append
>> the
>> text I want to put in, then control-V.  All works fine.  then,
>> sometimes,
>> I
>> will select another area, press controlC, word will pause, and then
>> just
>> say
>> "print" and go back to the document without saying "copied."
>> Yesterday I
>> had to select again and press control C multiple times (with
>> answering yes
>> each time) for it to copy the new text.  Now usually, it works just
>> great,
>> but sometimes, it gets a bit sluggish and flaky when I've had Word up
>> for
>> a
>> while, something I have to do with my job.  i just think it would be
>> a
>> nice
>> thing to have a way of just clearing the clipboard without having to
>> try
>> to
>> copy something else and answer yes.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>
>>
>>> Sorry, but I don't think it's the FS clipboard that's messed up.
>>>
>>> One thing you might want to check is how your system is displaying
>>> highlighted text.  I don't know if that has anything to do with it,
>>> but
>>> it
>>> might.  Of course, you know how to select individual words,
>>> sentences,
>>> etc., right?
>>>
>>> And depending where you are trying to use the clipboard, there are
>>> clipboard settings in Word you might want to turn off.  I can't
>>> remember
>>> what they are right now, but the MS clipboard might be set up
>>> differently
>>> on your computer.  And I have no idea if it's Word you're working in
>>> or
>>> not.
>>>
>>> But again, I really don't think the FS clipboard is the problem
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sun Sparkle" <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> you know folks this is getting more and more anoying.
>>>> the only way to even get the clipboard contents to do what i would
>>>> wantis
>>>> to do a select all before doing a control c lets just say that is
>>>> screwed
>>>> up in the sense cause what if you wanted to just select part of
>>>> what you
>>>> are selecting and the regular clipboard and the fs clipboard dont
>>>> allow
>>>> you to copy the text like that then what?
>>>> just a question
>>>> fs needs tofix there mess up on the fs clipboard.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicki Keck" <favorite.blend@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes, it doesn't copy when I do this.  sometimes, it needs to
>>>>> be
>>>>> done multiple times.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Cc: <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would you need to clear it? Just do a normal cut or copy to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> clipboard and a dialog pops up warning you that this will erase
>>>>>> what's
>>>>>> already there, if you've used windows+C. Answer yes to this and
>>>>>> you're
>>>>>> good to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bruce
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Sun Sparkle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how do you clear what is on the FS clipboard, after pasteing
>>>>>>> what you
>>>>>>> have either in a document, or email?
>>>>>>> for the past 6 weeks i have had to unload JAWS to clear the FS
>>>>>>> clipboard and find this very anoying!
>>>>>>> so how do you fix this!
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