Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
- From: orhan deniz <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:35:24 +0100
like, for instance, using gmail or something? Don't tell me that you have
your MSN address registered with companies, doctors etc? because from the
start that is a foolish thing to do.
sorry for sounding harsh...
orhan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Schulz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
You mentioned alternatives for hot mail users but you didn't mention
anything but windows live mail. What are other alternatives?
I have msn so I imagine that if I want to keep using outlook express, I
will have to find a different internet service, which I really don't want to
do.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
now, I think that is a good thing. Of course folks, we can have varying
opinions on this matter.
orhan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Vandecar
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
Hi,
I have tried Windows Live Mail and the biggest complaint I have is
that every email acount you check has its own separate set of mail boxes
that are a nuisance to mess with. Other then that it seems to work ok.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
Evening folks,
Recently there have been some postings to various blind technology
lists about the Misconceptions about Windows Live mail. From what I
understand, Live mail will only effect those using hotmail. This is because,
people on Hotmail use the HTTP way of accessing E-mail. Microsoft, use a
different protocol for Hotmail users to access their e-mail. For this
reason, they have to switch to windows Live mail. Frankly, this was coming.
New outlook express users could not use hotmail anymore with out paying for
it, and Microsoft was slowly dropping the ball on outlook express. For those
who use hotmail, you could use something that would use a pop3 or imap
server. This includes but is not limited to, gmail and other free e-mail
services.
Now, Let me try and clear out some misconceptions in the blindness
community.
Firstly, windows Live mail is navigable with jaws, and probably
window-eyes. You can certainly use it, there some focus issues but apart
from that, it is usable. Jaws9, does, indeed, have built-in scripts for WL
mail. While not perfect, they are functionable. a person can use most of
the keystrokes to accomplish what they need to in WLM mail. Composition of
messages is pretty straight forward, except for turning off the PC cursor.
oh, BTW, you don't have indication of weather a message is read or
unread.
Now, my opinion.
Yes, windows Live mail is usable to a certain degree with jaws 9 and
maybe other screen readers, but I don't think it is perfect as well. I think
we should make the gradual move to it, and Notify screen reader vendors
that this will be a key program in the future. outlook express is not! and
I mean not!!! just gonna die now,and as you have seen, it only effects
hotmail users. Plus, there are alternatives, for those Hotmail users.
I would recommend that Hotmail users try out windows Live mail.
Honestly, it's not that bad. Now, if you don't have jaws9 or what ever,
there is alternative e-mail services, clients etc. Don't!, Don't,! be
afraid to try out new things.
For those people like me who don't use hotmail, but another e-mail
service, stick with outlook express, imho... because there are still bugs in
Windows Live Mail.
Kindest regards,
orhan.
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