Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
- From: Allan Wong <allan.wkf@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:55:14 +0800
the option for your case is, try to use windows live mail or you also can gave
a hand on microsoft outlook 2007, I'm sure both are
working fine with @msn.com and @hotmail.com accounts.
hope this helps.
p.s. as the time I'm writing this message, I am using windows live mail, you
can check the message source to confirm. so windows
live mail is useble for jaws user.
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Warmest Regards,
Allan Wong
From: Katherine Schulz
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 09:44
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
I have no idea how you got such an idea from the message I sent. I asked you
what alternatives and you still haven't answered the
question I originally asked.
I don't want to change from MSN if I can help it, but if it is going to be too
hard for me, then I will have no choice. I used MSN
premium before I started using OE and I would hate to have to go back to web
based mail as I found it somewhat hard.
I do pay some of my bills online and yes, I only have this address. I have
never encountered a problem so far.
If I have done something wrong, I'm sorry.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
like, for instance, using gmail or something? Don't tell me that you have
your MSN address registered with companies, doctors etc?
because from the start that is a foolish thing to do.
sorry for sounding harsh...
orhan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Schulz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
You mentioned alternatives for hot mail users but you didn't mention
anything but windows live mail. What are other
alternatives?
I have msn so I imagine that if I want to keep using outlook express, I
will have to find a different internet service, which I
really don't want to do.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
now, I think that is a good thing. Of course folks, we can have varying
opinions on this matter.
orhan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Vandecar
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
Hi,
I have tried Windows Live Mail and the biggest complaint I have is that
every email acount you check has its own separate
set of mail boxes that are a nuisance to mess with. Other then that it seems
to work ok.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
Evening folks,
Recently there have been some postings to various blind technology
lists about the Misconceptions about Windows Live
mail. From what I understand, Live mail will only effect those using hotmail.
This is because, people on Hotmail use the HTTP way of
accessing E-mail. Microsoft, use a different protocol for Hotmail users to
access their e-mail. For this reason, they have to switch
to windows Live mail. Frankly, this was coming. New outlook express users could
not use hotmail anymore with out paying for it, and
Microsoft was slowly dropping the ball on outlook express. For those who use
hotmail, you could use something that would use a pop3
or imap server. This includes but is not limited to, gmail and other free
e-mail services.
Now, Let me try and clear out some misconceptions in the blindness
community.
Firstly, windows Live mail is navigable with jaws, and probably
window-eyes. You can certainly use it, there some focus
issues but apart from that, it is usable. Jaws9, does, indeed, have built-in
scripts for WL mail. While not perfect, they are
functionable. a person can use most of the keystrokes to accomplish what they
need to in WLM mail. Composition of messages is
pretty straight forward, except for turning off the PC cursor.
oh, BTW, you don't have indication of weather a message is read or
unread.
Now, my opinion.
Yes, windows Live mail is usable to a certain degree with jaws 9 and
maybe other screen readers, but I don't think it is
perfect as well. I think we should make the gradual move to it, and Notify
screen reader vendors that this will be a key program in
the future. outlook express is not! and I mean not!!! just gonna die now,and
as you have seen, it only effects hotmail users.
Plus, there are alternatives, for those Hotmail users.
I would recommend that Hotmail users try out windows Live mail.
Honestly, it's not that bad. Now, if you don't have jaws9
or what ever, there is alternative e-mail services, clients etc. Don't!,
Don't,! be afraid to try out new things.
For those people like me who don't use hotmail, but another e-mail
service, stick with outlook express, imho... because
there are still bugs in Windows Live Mail.
Kindest regards,
orhan.
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