Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
- From: "Katherine Schulz" <katherineschulz6266@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:44:29 -0500
I have no idea how you got such an idea from the message I sent. I asked you
what alternatives and you still haven't answered the question I originally
asked.
I don't want to change from MSN if I can help it, but if it is going to be too
hard for me, then I will have no choice. I used MSN premium before I started
using OE and I would hate to have to go back to web based mail as I found it
somewhat hard.
I do pay some of my bills online and yes, I only have this address. I have
never encountered a problem so far.
If I have done something wrong, I'm sorry.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
like, for instance, using gmail or something? Don't tell me that you have
your MSN address registered with companies, doctors etc? because from the start
that is a foolish thing to do.
sorry for sounding harsh...
orhan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Schulz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
You mentioned alternatives for hot mail users but you didn't mention
anything but windows live mail. What are other alternatives?
I have msn so I imagine that if I want to keep using outlook express, I
will have to find a different internet service, which I really don't want to do.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
now, I think that is a good thing. Of course folks, we can have varying
opinions on this matter.
orhan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Vandecar
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
Hi,
I have tried Windows Live Mail and the biggest complaint I have is that
every email acount you check has its own separate set of mail boxes that are a
nuisance to mess with. Other then that it seems to work ok.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: orhan deniz
To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
Evening folks,
Recently there have been some postings to various blind technology
lists about the Misconceptions about Windows Live mail. From what I understand,
Live mail will only effect those using hotmail. This is because, people on
Hotmail use the HTTP way of accessing E-mail. Microsoft, use a different
protocol for Hotmail users to access their e-mail. For this reason, they have
to switch to windows Live mail. Frankly, this was coming. New outlook express
users could not use hotmail anymore with out paying for it, and Microsoft was
slowly dropping the ball on outlook express. For those who use hotmail, you
could use something that would use a pop3 or imap server. This includes but is
not limited to, gmail and other free e-mail services.
Now, Let me try and clear out some misconceptions in the blindness
community.
Firstly, windows Live mail is navigable with jaws, and probably
window-eyes. You can certainly use it, there some focus issues but apart from
that, it is usable. Jaws9, does, indeed, have built-in scripts for WL mail.
While not perfect, they are functionable. a person can use most of the
keystrokes to accomplish what they need to in WLM mail. Composition of messages
is pretty straight forward, except for turning off the PC cursor.
oh, BTW, you don't have indication of weather a message is read or
unread.
Now, my opinion.
Yes, windows Live mail is usable to a certain degree with jaws 9 and
maybe other screen readers, but I don't think it is perfect as well. I think we
should make the gradual move to it, and Notify screen reader vendors that this
will be a key program in the future. outlook express is not! and I mean
not!!! just gonna die now,and as you have seen, it only effects hotmail users.
Plus, there are alternatives, for those Hotmail users.
I would recommend that Hotmail users try out windows Live mail.
Honestly, it's not that bad. Now, if you don't have jaws9 or what ever, there
is alternative e-mail services, clients etc. Don't!, Don't,! be afraid to
try out new things.
For those people like me who don't use hotmail, but another e-mail
service, stick with outlook express, imho... because there are still bugs in
Windows Live Mail.
Kindest regards,
orhan.
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