Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express

  • From: "Katherine Schulz" <katherineschulz6266@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:10:41 -0500

You mentioned alternatives for hot mail users but you didn't mention anything 
but windows live mail.  What are other alternatives?

I have msn so I imagine that if I want to keep using outlook express, I will 
have to find a different internet service, which I really don't want to do.

Katherine
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: orhan deniz 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express


  now, I think that is a good thing. Of course folks, we can have varying 
opinions on this matter.

  orhan.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steve Vandecar 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:07 PM
    Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express


    Hi,

    I have tried Windows Live Mail and the biggest complaint I have is that 
every email acount you check has its own separate  set of mail boxes that are a 
nuisance to  mess with.  Other then that it seems to work ok.

    Steve
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: orhan deniz 
      To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:44 AM
      Subject: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express


      Evening folks,
      Recently there have been some postings  to various blind technology lists 
about the Misconceptions about Windows Live mail. From what I understand, Live 
mail will only effect those using hotmail. This is because, people on Hotmail 
use the HTTP way of accessing E-mail. Microsoft, use a different protocol for 
Hotmail users to access their e-mail. For this reason, they have to switch to 
windows Live mail. Frankly, this was coming. New outlook express users could 
not use hotmail anymore with out paying for it, and Microsoft was slowly 
dropping the ball on outlook express. For those who use hotmail, you could use 
something that would use a pop3 or imap server.  This includes but is not 
limited to, gmail and other free e-mail services.

      Now, Let me try and clear out some misconceptions in the blindness 
community. 
      Firstly, windows Live mail is navigable with jaws, and probably 
window-eyes. You can certainly use it, there some focus issues but apart from 
that, it is usable. Jaws9, does, indeed, have built-in scripts for WL mail. 
While not perfect, they are functionable.  a person can use most of the 
keystrokes to accomplish what they need to in WLM mail. Composition of messages 
is pretty straight forward, except for turning off the PC cursor. 
      oh, BTW, you don't have indication of weather a message is read or 
unread. 


      Now, my opinion.
      Yes, windows Live mail is usable to a certain degree with jaws 9 and 
maybe other screen readers, but I don't think it is perfect as well. I think we 
should make the gradual move to  it, and Notify screen reader vendors that this 
will be a key program in the future. outlook express is not!  and I  mean 
not!!!  just gonna die now,and as you have seen, it only effects hotmail users. 
Plus, there are alternatives, for those Hotmail users. 
      I would recommend that Hotmail users try out windows Live mail. Honestly, 
it's not that bad. Now, if you don't have jaws9 or what ever, there is 
alternative e-mail services, clients etc. Don't!,  Don't,! be    afraid to try 
out new things.
      For those people like me who don't use hotmail, but another e-mail 
service, stick with outlook express, imho... because there are still bugs in 
Windows Live Mail.

      Kindest regards,
      orhan.

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