Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 11:29:53 -0700

Ah, I get it.  I'll go to the page just to look, anyway, but your 
description explains it well.  I have only one memory to draw on of a 
similar page navigation situation where lack of blank spaces the way you're 
describing confused me so much that I dropped my subscription to a 
particular online journal, because the table of contents for each issue 
didn't leave blank lines between the article titles and their subheads and 
or authors' names, and however hard I tried to keep clearly in mind the 
sequence, so I could figure out which article was rotten by which of the 
issues several writers, I kept getting confused because the items weren't 
separated by blank lines from each other.

But I'll admit, I wasn't navigating then in terms of headings, just arrowing 
down through the table of contents.  Even now, were I to return to that 
page, I don't think I'd be using headings for going through the list.  But 
what counts here is the mess it can make of a list such as the one you're 
describing to not have blank lines separating the listed items clearly from 
each other.

Hope you have some success fixing this.  By the way, since you say it's 
essentially your own Web page, is it that you want to change the Jaws 
behavior so that you can tell other Jaws users how to do it?  Do you also 
hope to host many sighted visitors, and do you think that the list looks 
that way to them, just a mush of text without any breaks?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?


Yardbird,

Yes, I'm talking about html headings; sorry I misspoke.

As an example of what I'm concerned about, go to my online discography:
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/cds.shtml

There, you'll see that the track listing for each album is preceded by a
level 3 heading, giving the title of the album. But, between any such
heading and the track listing immediately above, there is no longer a blank
line, as there used to be with 7.0. I find this a bit confusing, when
reading through the discography with the up and down arrows, and not just
jumping from heading to heading. I'd like to revert to the 7.0 behavior, if
I can figure out how to do so.

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, nÃe C. R. Guttman
Email: DSLeslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÃE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?


> P.S. to my first post I just sent.  You say "header," and I thought you
> meant "heading," which is a page design element.  Do you actually mean
> "header?"  What's a header on a Web page?  Or aren't you talking about the
> Web?
>
> Genuinely confused, now.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>
>
> Yes, Debbie. I think that's what I had in mind; I remember coming across
> that text, before. But, I'm pretty sure I read it in one of the ins-F1
> dialogues, for an option somewhere in Configuration Manager. But, at
> least,
> I can use the options in the ins-V dialogue, to experiment with them, to
> see
> their effects.
>
> Any luck on discovering how I can get back the blank line that used to
> appear above an HTML header?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dana
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>
>
>> Dana, I don't remember that being in configuration manager.
>> The jaws help says for example:
>> When reading a Web page with the Virtual Cursor, JAWS places each link on
>> its own line, even if the document visually presents the link on a line
>> with
>> other text or additional links.
>> Tables.  JAWS reads the cells in order from left to right and behaves as
>> if
>> each table cell begins on a new line.
>> So jaws doesn't ever actually change the way the page is displayed except
>> for the way it "interprets" and "stores" it in the virtual buffer.
>> Could you be thinking of documentation presentation?  Screen layout
>> versus
>> simple layout? (insert V dialog).
>> Both 7.0 and 7.1 say JFWLite Home Page (heading 1) followed by Programs
>> Page.
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "JFWList" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:46 AM
>> Subject: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>>
>>
>> I remember that, when I initially looked through the new Configuration
>> Manager, I found a section to control whether HTML links are each
>> displayed
>> on a separate line (as has always been the case, up until 7.1), and
>> whether
>> cells in a table are each displayed on a separate line. Now I want to
>> experiment with these settings, but I can't find my way back to them. can
>> anyone give me directions?
>>
>> Also, I don't remember seeing a control for this, but does anyone know of
>> one: Previously, there was always a blank line above any header, in an
>> HTML
>> document. Now, in 7.1, headers follow immediately upon the previous text,
>> with no blank line in-between. I'd like to restore the previous behavior,
>> and regain those blank lines. does anyone know how to accomplish this?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Blessed Be,
>>
>> Dana
>> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>>
>> D. S. Leslie, nÃe C. R. Guttman
>> Email: DSLeslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype: dsleslie
>> Web: ÃE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
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