Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
- From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 15:14:56 -0400
Dana, and now tell me again how you are navigating this?
If I press H (or 3 when I get down to them) for a heading and then arrow
down I get the same thing in Jaws 7.0 and Jaws 7.1.
i get for example
Barenaked Ladies - All Their Greatest Hits 1991-2001
Then if I arrow down I get
1. The Old Apartment
I don't get a blank line.
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
I'm not quite sure how it appears to a sighted visitor. That's something
I'll investigate the next time I have some sighted assistance, to go over it
with me. But, in general, I would like my pages to be useful, and easily
readable, by any visitor, whether blind or sighted, and, as a matter of my
own pride in workmanship, I'd like to be sure I know how to so design them.
Blessed Be,
Dana
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
> Ah, I get it. I'll go to the page just to look, anyway, but your
> description explains it well. I have only one memory to draw on of a
> similar page navigation situation where lack of blank spaces the way
> you're
> describing confused me so much that I dropped my subscription to a
> particular online journal, because the table of contents for each issue
> didn't leave blank lines between the article titles and their subheads and
> or authors' names, and however hard I tried to keep clearly in mind the
> sequence, so I could figure out which article was rotten by which of the
> issues several writers, I kept getting confused because the items weren't
> separated by blank lines from each other.
>
> But I'll admit, I wasn't navigating then in terms of headings, just
> arrowing
> down through the table of contents. Even now, were I to return to that
> page, I don't think I'd be using headings for going through the list. But
> what counts here is the mess it can make of a list such as the one you're
> describing to not have blank lines separating the listed items clearly
> from
> each other.
>
> Hope you have some success fixing this. By the way, since you say it's
> essentially your own Web page, is it that you want to change the Jaws
> behavior so that you can tell other Jaws users how to do it? Do you also
> hope to host many sighted visitors, and do you think that the list looks
> that way to them, just a mush of text without any breaks?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>
>
> Yardbird,
>
> Yes, I'm talking about html headings; sorry I misspoke.
>
> As an example of what I'm concerned about, go to my online discography:
> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/cds.shtml
>
> There, you'll see that the track listing for each album is preceded by a
> level 3 heading, giving the title of the album. But, between any such
> heading and the track listing immediately above, there is no longer a
> blank
> line, as there used to be with 7.0. I find this a bit confusing, when
> reading through the discography with the up and down arrows, and not just
> jumping from heading to heading. I'd like to revert to the 7.0 behavior,
> if
> I can figure out how to do so.
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
> D. S. Leslie, nÃe C. R. Guttman
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> Skype: dsleslie
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>
>
>> P.S. to my first post I just sent. You say "header," and I thought you
>> meant "heading," which is a page design element. Do you actually mean
>> "header?" What's a header on a Web page? Or aren't you talking about
>> the
>> Web?
>>
>> Genuinely confused, now.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>>
>>
>> Yes, Debbie. I think that's what I had in mind; I remember coming across
>> that text, before. But, I'm pretty sure I read it in one of the ins-F1
>> dialogues, for an option somewhere in Configuration Manager. But, at
>> least,
>> I can use the options in the ins-V dialogue, to experiment with them, to
>> see
>> their effects.
>>
>> Any luck on discovering how I can get back the blank line that used to
>> appear above an HTML header?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dana
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>>
>>
>>> Dana, I don't remember that being in configuration manager.
>>> The jaws help says for example:
>>> When reading a Web page with the Virtual Cursor, JAWS places each link
>>> on
>>> its own line, even if the document visually presents the link on a line
>>> with
>>> other text or additional links.
>>> Tables. JAWS reads the cells in order from left to right and behaves as
>>> if
>>> each table cell begins on a new line.
>>> So jaws doesn't ever actually change the way the page is displayed
>>> except
>>> for the way it "interprets" and "stores" it in the virtual buffer.
>>> Could you be thinking of documentation presentation? Screen layout
>>> versus
>>> simple layout? (insert V dialog).
>>> Both 7.0 and 7.1 say JFWLite Home Page (heading 1) followed by Programs
>>> Page.
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsleslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "JFWList" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:46 AM
>>> Subject: Where in Configuration Manager is it located?
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember that, when I initially looked through the new Configuration
>>> Manager, I found a section to control whether HTML links are each
>>> displayed
>>> on a separate line (as has always been the case, up until 7.1), and
>>> whether
>>> cells in a table are each displayed on a separate line. Now I want to
>>> experiment with these settings, but I can't find my way back to them.
>>> can
>>> anyone give me directions?
>>>
>>> Also, I don't remember seeing a control for this, but does anyone know
>>> of
>>> one: Previously, there was always a blank line above any header, in an
>>> HTML
>>> document. Now, in 7.1, headers follow immediately upon the previous
>>> text,
>>> with no blank line in-between. I'd like to restore the previous
>>> behavior,
>>> and regain those blank lines. does anyone know how to accomplish this?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Blessed Be,
>>>
>>> Dana
>>> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>>>
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