Re: Num pad alternatives
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:41:09 -0700
Judith,
I can't comment on the preview pane because I keep to the common practice
among Jaws users of not using it, as recommended. But if I may intrude
about something else, I'd like to say that simply opening an email message
doesn't ordinarily expose you to viruses. Yes, there are some malicious
software that I understand can run via the HTML code of some emails, but
first of all, if you're like the majority of low vision, blind and screen
reader users, you probably have your incoming email set to be converted
automatically into plain text, even if it arrived in Rich Text (HTML). So
that renders those things harmless.
The basic thing to remember is that viruses of the sort we're mostly worried
about are transmitted not within email messages themselves, but in
attachments that activate when you open them. And here is what the actual
rule is: Not "delete every email with an unfamiliar sender," but "don't
open attachments unless you know what they are, and that they've been sent
by someone trustworthy." And that means even writing to ask someone you
know if they really just sent you a message with a file attachment, if you
weren't expecting it, because viruses are usually sent around by programs
that send themselves out from people's address books without the people
knowing,, so that it looks legitimate. But instead of being worried, just
be prudent and don't open something you're not sure about, until you verify
its legitimacy. It won't help anything to just delete unfamiliar stuff as
if it's all attacking you. It may even be obnoxious spam trying to sell you
junk, but that, for instance, is almost *never* a technical attack. That
would be an awful business strategy for those merchants!
and just because Jaws is saying there's an attachment on a strange email may
not even mean there's actually an attachment, as we sometimes see. For
instance, when I get your messages on this list, they often say they have
attachments, but that just turns out to be Windows' misinterpretation of
something about a virus protection tag line or something like that.
Also, and this is a basic, important thing to remember: if there really *is*
an attachment, it's completely harmless if you simply don't open it.
Hope that's helpful in principle. You wouldn't be the only person who has
gone a little too far imagining what the actual dangers are that you must
avoid.
ust because advance to
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Num pad alternatives
When I go through my inbox for new messages I delete those I have no idea as
to where they came from. I feel that by doing this I can delete potential
viruses. When using the preview pane what kind of defense do you hav
against potential viruses that norton doesn't catch? Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Hardy" <granthardy@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Num pad alternatives
> Lots of people don't like using the preview pane but I love it. From
within
> the message list, if you have "Preview pane" checked under the view menu,
> simply tab and start a say all and you're right in the message. Then
> shift+tab back to the list of messages, or even hit delete right away and
> you're immediately moved to the next message. Works great, and if you're
> set to read all messages in plain text I shouldn't think it would be
> insecure.
>
> Grant
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Feist" <ccfeist@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Num pad alternatives
>
>
> > Yeah, I wish that the delete key on the num pad worked while a message
is
> > opened, but it doesn't. I have to escape the message in Outlook first
to
> > use that keystroke. While I'm in the message, I have to hit Control D
to
> > delete it and then I am automatically moved to the next message which is
> > immediately opened for me and ready to be read. If the delete key on
the
> > num pad worked in an open message, that would help a lot. But it's just
> > not
> > to be... not in Outlook Xp or 2003.
> >
> > Chris Feist - The one and only!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > On Behalf Of G.W. Cox
> >
> > Insert down arrow to read all. Delete key next to insert key to delete.
> > Escape to drop the message. I rarely use the numpad except for like alt
> > control 5 to read column and row headings for a figure in a table.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Feist" <ccfeist@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:50 AM
> > Subject: Num pad alternatives
> >
> >
> > Hi. I use the num pad quite frequently to read documents, E-mail,
> > and the Internet. It is quite handy. However, often it can be
> > cumbersome
> > to jump back and forth from the num pad to the left, back to the rest of
> > the
> > keyboard.
> >
> > For example, in Outlook while in a message, I press Insert Num pad 2 to
> > read
> > all. Then I have to move my right hand all the way over so I can do a
> > Control Comma or period to move on to the next message or Control D to
> > delete the message. Back and forth, back and forth. It gets rather old
> > as
> > you can imagine.
> >
> > My question is are their keystrokes that I'm not aware of that I could
> > use
> > that are not on the num pad for these particular circumstances, such as
> > a
> > read all, for example? There are times it would be much simpler to keep
> > my
> > hands in the typing position. The less jumping around I do the better.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Chris Feist - The one and only!
> >
> >
> >
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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005
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No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005
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