Re: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?

  • From: Jean Menzies <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:39:20 -0700

Yup.  I stand corrected.

Just couldn't think of it.

Jean
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?



Hi Jean,

Yes, that's what Insert Z is now. The way to turn off and on the new Jaws
navigational single-letter functionality in Word. But it used to be for
turning the virtual cursor on and off.


My actual question, considering the above, was whether or not anyone knows
what became of that virtual cursor business, and what the purpose of it was
in the first place. Also, hoping not to embarrass or offend, may I explain
that the word you needed in order to say "isn't it just sort of "academic,"
now, if none of this is current, is "moot," not "mute." Mute means silent.
Moot is a term associated with rhetorical argumentation and with situations
such as in law school, where there are courses that involve what's called
Moot Court, where students and professors hold civil and criminal trials
about fictional litigation and fictional crimes, in order to learn from the
experience. A lot of people don't know the word and just assume that what
they've heard is the word "mute," ignoring the difference in the "u" sound,
because "mute" is more familiar.


anyway, I'd love to learn about what the virtual cursor deal was and all
that. So if anyone knows, I'd love to hear the story. And if it's still a
feature in Word even though I haven't yet found a reference to it in my
exploration of help files and such, I'd like to know where to find out more
about it in order to get the most efficiency I can in Word. Because I found
the virtual cursor really an impediment to accurate work in a Word document.


Thanks.
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?


Hey, don't you mean insert Z for the navigational commands in Word?

But I'd like to know more of how you used the virtual cursor for better
positioning in Word. But then if it's not available, it's a mute point.


Jean
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?



I'm going through the Jaws help topics about new features in Jaws 7,
and
planning also to try the Daisy tutorials soon, as well. But meantime,
I was
just working on a document in Word, the first time I've done that
since
installing version 7, and I noticed one thing that confused me at
first and
which then I looked up in one of the reference sources. I forget
which,
because my head's spinning as I go from something in the Jaws 7
submenu
under Programs to the What's New section of the files in Help. But
what I
think I learned is that Insert V now toggles the new Word navigation
keystrokes on and off. So far, so good.


but I'm accustomed to Insert V toggling on and off the Virtual
cursor,and I
used to turn it off and find that I could move through a Word document
with
my ordinary keyboard navigation keys (arrow keys, etc.) much more
smoothly,
and that Jaws would stay focused where I meant to be more dependably,
if I
turned the virtual cursor off. I never did figure out what this was
all
about, or what was supposed to be good or bad about having this set
one way
or the other. Maybe someone can tell me.


but my main question is, is the virtual cursor now on permanently in
Word?
Or off? It's hard to tell, right now. And if it can still be turned
on and
off, what are the keystrokes? I looked under keystrokes for Word in
one of
the above two places, and saw no mention of the virtual cursor at all,
even
though of course I learned that Insert V now is for the navigation
commands.


Thanks.



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