Re: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:59:36 -0800

Well, now we've got everything straightened out, except that I'm still 
trying to imagine what happened to that virtual cursor feature.  And what it 
was for, in the first place.  Anybody know?  I'm talking about Jaws and 
Microsoft Word, a feature that was toggled on and off using Insert Z until 
Jaws 7.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?


Yup.  I stand corrected.

Just couldn't think of it.

Jean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?


> Hi Jean,
>
> Yes, that's what Insert Z is now.  The way to turn off and on the new
> Jaws
> navigational single-letter functionality in Word.  But it used to be
> for
> turning the virtual cursor on and off.
>
> My actual question, considering the above, was whether or not anyone
> knows
> what became of that virtual cursor business, and what the purpose of
> it was
> in the first place.  Also, hoping not to embarrass or offend, may I
> explain
> that the word you needed in order to say "isn't it just sort of
> "academic,"
> now, if none of this is current, is "moot," not "mute."  Mute means
> silent.
> Moot is a term associated with rhetorical argumentation and with
> situations
> such as in law school, where there are courses that involve what's
> called
> Moot Court, where students and professors hold civil and criminal
> trials
> about fictional litigation and fictional crimes, in order to learn
> from the
> experience.  A lot of people don't know the word and just assume that
> what
> they've heard is the word "mute," ignoring the difference in the "u"
> sound,
> because "mute" is more familiar.
>
> anyway, I'd love to learn about what the virtual cursor deal was and
> all
> that.  So if anyone knows, I'd love to hear the story.  And if it's
> still a
> feature in Word even though I haven't yet found a reference to it in
> my
> exploration of help files and such, I'd like to know where to find out
> more
> about it in order to get the most efficiency I can in Word.  Because I
> found
> the virtual cursor really an impediment to accurate work in a Word
> document.
>
> Thanks.
> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?
>
>
> Hey, don't you mean insert Z for the navigational commands in Word?
>
> But I'd like to know more of how you used the virtual cursor for
> better
> positioning in Word.  But then if it's not available, it's a mute
> point.
>
> Jean
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 5:01 PM
> Subject: No virtual cursor on/off toggle in word with Jaws 7?
>
>
>> I'm going through the Jaws help topics about new features in Jaws 7,
>> and
>> planning also to try the Daisy tutorials soon, as well.  But
>> meantime,
>> I was
>> just working on a document in Word, the first time I've done that
>> since
>> installing version 7, and I noticed one thing that confused me at
>> first and
>> which then I looked up in one of the reference sources.  I forget
>> which,
>> because my head's spinning as I go from something in the Jaws 7
>> submenu
>> under Programs to the What's New section of the files in Help.  But
>> what I
>> think I learned is that Insert V now toggles the new Word navigation
>> keystrokes on and off.  So far, so good.
>>
>> but I'm accustomed to Insert V toggling on and off the Virtual
>> cursor,and I
>> used to turn it off and find that I could move through a Word
>> document
>> with
>> my ordinary keyboard navigation keys (arrow keys, etc.) much more
>> smoothly,
>> and that Jaws would stay focused where I meant to be more dependably,
>> if I
>> turned the virtual cursor off.  I never did figure out what this was
>> all
>> about, or what was supposed to be good or bad about having this set
>> one way
>> or the other.  Maybe someone can tell me.
>>
>> but my main question is, is the virtual cursor now on permanently in
>> Word?
>> Or off?  It's hard to tell, right now.  And if it can still be turned
>> on and
>> off, what are the keystrokes?  I looked under keystrokes for Word in
>> one of
>> the above two places, and saw no mention of the virtual cursor at
>> all,
>> even
>> though of course I learned that Insert V now is for the navigation
>> commands.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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