this is a very basic question, and I'd appreciate someone clarifying it for me: I'm a Jaws user. I don't know much about voice recognition software like DNS. From what I've gathered, JSsay is software that allows Jaws and DNS to be used together, in ways I haven't been able to imagine but trust is the case. Well, my question is, what is it that JSay actually does? Is it something you can't do without if you're a jaws user and want to dictate to your computer? Otherwise, let's see, how would it not work for you? You would have to exit Jaws, launch DNC (when I hear "dnc," I keep thinking of the National Democratic Committee and Howard Dean, and that's not meant to be a divisive partisan comment) and then DNC would allow you to dictate instead of type, assuming you could type, but then to read and possibly edit what you'd dictated, you'd have to exit DNS and launch Jaws again, and so on, back and forth? Or am I not imagining accurately how all this would work? If I'm way off, how *would* it work? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Oh so your using J-Say. That's a shame, thought it might have been without. As I have full use of my arms I couldn't justify the cost of both J-Say and Dragon. Peterb From: Chris Jenkins Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:27 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Hello Jeff. Just a few of the things that you will have to get used to while dictating or as follows. The biggest thing is keeping control of the microphone meaning making sure that the microphone is asleep when you are not using it for example when someone comes into your office or cubicle and wants to carry on a conversation with you. I would say the next biggest thing is to learn how to talk without using filler words such as o m, or and. If you are going to be using speech recognition software while on the phone with customers you will have a whole other set of problems to overcome. For example where now you can type and speak to the customer at the same time of course you will not be able to speak to dragon naturally speaking and the customer at the same time. You should at least take all this into consideration before making an investment into speech recognition software. I will say for me Dragon naturally speaking along with J--Say is the best purchase I ever made. I hope this helps. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Schwartz Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:48 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Thanks Pat, If you didn't have to spend a great deal of time teaching it to recognize your voice, where does the learning curve come in? This is for work where I have XP. Do you think that it would be significantly different from Vista with DNS? Jeff -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pat L Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Jeffrey, I have experimented with DNS 10 and have been very favorably impressed. The speech recognition out of the box without training was remarkably good. I was able to dictate a few test e-mails with surprisingly good results. However, there is a steep learning curve to master this feature rich program. The program is cheap - I was able to buy it from Nuance on a promotion for around $50. If you are willing to make the investment and devote time to the learning process, it might work for you. As of now, I can't afford the time to use it consistently, but that may not be true for you. HTH, Pat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:06 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws and dragon naturally speaking Hi Jeffrey, I've never used DNS with Jaws, but I did have some success with the built in speech recognition in Windows Vista, using System Access. HTH Russell From: Jeffrey Schwartz Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:41 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: jaws and dragon naturally speaking I'm in my early sixties and between contact sports when young and sighted and decades of copious typing, I fear that I have developed arthritis in my hands. I'd like to use Dragon. The party line from FS is that one can only do it with Dragon Professional and the T and T consultancy intermediate program. I believe that I have heard one or two on this list say that they use Dragon Naturally Speaking directly with jaws. I'd be grateful for any feedback on this issue -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx