Hi all.I think those just starting out with servers perhaps should use Windows Terminal Services, which has been integrated since Windows 2000 Server (am I right here guys?). It's just easier to configure as a "role", easy to get connected from a Terminal Services client like Remote Desktop Connection, and so on compared to Citrix.
From Chris H in Derbyshire E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 Please visit my blog at http://chrishallsworth.klangoblog.net. If you need any computer help, please contact me. Thank you. On 06/10/2010 14:26, Bissett, Tom wrote:
I don't think there is any advantage for the user but for the company there is greater security and more control over what a person can do. Regards Tom Bissett Retail Investment Products, PCG TD BMO Financial Group Tel: (416) 359-7568 E-Mail tom.bissett@xxxxxxx Vacation: August 3 through August 13 -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: October 4, 2010 7:12 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIX What exactly does Citrix offer that RDP doesn't? I could understand the need for a product like Citrix when terminal services was a separate add-on package for windows (through the time of NT4, maybe 2k not sure there), but really don't see it now. Is it just inertia or is there something more I am unaware of? On 10/4/10, john vernaleken<jfv508@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I am now able to connect to my workplace using Citrix with JAWS. The Freedom Scientific tech connected to my PC using Tandem and in less than 20 minutes I was up and running. Freedom Scientific was great in providing support. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:47 PM Subject: RE: JAWS Using CITRIXGetting the authorization code can be a problem. In fact, it was such a problem for our IT folks (and they were in charge of 2,000 users) at my old firm that they leaned on me to drop JAWS and go with Window-Eyes, which doesn't have the same authorization code problem. I can't tell you why it is a problem, but don't feel like the lone ranger in dealing with this, and you may have to escalate through Freedom Scientific technical support a couple of levels. Even then, it may not work. I'm so glad not to be using Citrix any more. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john vernaleken Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:40 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIX I am currently trying to access my work place thru Citrix. My Network Operations team is working with Freedom Scientific. The only problem left is having the Server get the authorization Code from the remote client. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIXWell I can't understand how to get Citrix working. I tried to act my virtual machine as a remote server but I just didn't understand how to work with Citrix at all. On the client I had Citrix Xen Desktop and on the server I also had that. Might as well go back to Microsoft Remote Desktop/Terminal Services. From Chris H in Derbyshire E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 Please visit my blog at http://chrishallsworth.klangoblog.net. If you need any computer help, please contact me. Thank you. On 30/09/2010 23:22, Marquette, Ed wrote:Well, Firebox is great for some things, but not for others. With Citrix you are, in effect, logged on to a remote computer, and the local client receives only frames. That's a bit over-simplified, but the concept is that the programs run remotely, and the local client acts essentially as a terminal. The good thing is that you are, in fact, logged into the remote machine. With Firebox, you are not logged into a remote machine -- just the firebox. So, it is like the disk I/O is piped to the remote servers. Everything else is local. You are running all your own applications locally. For that reason, JAWS doesn't have to be loaded anywhere other than on the local machine. For that very reason, however, it is not a useful tool to log onto a remote computer. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:03 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIX Hi all. Does Firebox allow you to log on to servers remotely then? If so can I use a screen reader in a terminal session? Or can I only do this with actual Remote Desktop/Terminal Services or Citrix. From Chris H in Derbyshire E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 Please visit my blog at http://chrishallsworth.klangoblog.net. If you need any computer help, please contact me. Thank you. On 17/09/2010 02:52, Marquette, Ed wrote:John: I haven't used JAWS with Citrix since JFW version 7. Then, it was kind of a pain. Periodically, JAWS would claim that I didn't have proper authorization. Often, when the screen saver came on, it would disconnect. In fact, our systems administrator was so frustrated with JAWS that I was strongly encouraged to switch to Window-Eyes, which I did. I've now switched firms, and couldn't get Window-Eyes to work with our Web-based document management system. So, i switched back to JAWS (on Version 11). We have something called "Firebox." It is, apparently, a kind of VPN application. I run it from the desktop, enter my password, and suddenly, I have access to Network drives. All loads and saves go to the network drives (unless I specify otherwise). The applications, however, all run locally. It is the next best thing to being at my desk, in the office, with the laptop connected to the docking station. Sometimes, I even think it is better. JAWS resides only on my laptop. No administrators have to load anything on any servers. In short, it is wonderful. Going back to Citrix would be like going back to the stone age. I must confess; I have a strong preference for small applications that do their thing flawlessly and then get the heck out of the way. Firebox does exactly that. Sometimes, if I'm concentrating, I forget I'm remotely connected through Firebox. I could never, ever say that with Citrix, whether I was running JAWS or Window-Eyes. So, if your VPN is like Firebox or is Firebox, run, don't walk, to use that option. I used to have to deal with a Citrix administrator to fix something fairly frequently. He and I became fast friends. I've never called an administrator with Firebox. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *john vernaleken *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:47 PM *To:* jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* JAWS Using CITRIX Hello all, Is anyone using CITRIX to connect to their workplace? I have the chance to work from home and the two choices I have is to use VPN or CITRIX. Pros and Cons to each way. 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