RE: JAWS Using CITRIX

  • From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.bissett@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 09:26:23 -0400

I don't think there is any advantage for the user but for the company there is 
greater security and more control over what a person can do.   

Regards
Tom Bissett

Retail Investment Products, PCG TD

BMO Financial Group
Tel: (416) 359-7568

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Soronel Haetir
Sent: October 4, 2010 7:12 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIX

What exactly does Citrix offer that RDP doesn't?  I could understand
the need for a product like Citrix when terminal services was a
separate add-on package for windows (through the time of NT4, maybe 2k
not sure there), but really don't see it now.

Is it just inertia or is there something more I am unaware of?

On 10/4/10, john vernaleken <jfv508@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> I am now able to connect to my workplace using Citrix with JAWS. The Freedom
> Scientific tech connected to my PC using Tandem and in less than 20 minutes
> I was up and running.
>
> Freedom Scientific was great in providing support.
>
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:47 PM
> Subject: RE: JAWS Using CITRIX
>
>
>> Getting the authorization code can be a problem.  In fact, it was such a
>> problem for our IT folks (and they were in charge of 2,000 users) at my
>> old firm that they leaned on me to drop JAWS and go with Window-Eyes,
>> which doesn't have the same authorization code problem.
>> I can't tell you why it is a problem, but don't feel like the lone ranger
>> in dealing with this, and you may have to escalate through Freedom
>> Scientific technical support a couple of levels.  Even then, it may not
>> work.
>> I'm so glad not to be using Citrix any more.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>
>> Of john vernaleken
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:40 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIX
>>
>>
>> I am currently trying to access my work place thru Citrix. My Network
>> Operations team is working with Freedom Scientific. The only problem left
>> is
>> having the Server get the authorization Code  from the remote client.
>>
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "chris hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIX
>>
>>
>>> Well I can't understand how to get Citrix working. I tried to act my
>>> virtual machine as a remote server but I just didn't understand how to
>>> work with Citrix at all. On the client I had Citrix Xen Desktop and on
>>> the
>>> server I also had that. Might as well go back to Microsoft Remote
>>> Desktop/Terminal Services.
>>>
>>>
>>> From Chris H in Derbyshire
>>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>> Please visit my blog at http://chrishallsworth.klangoblog.net.
>>> If you need any computer help, please contact me. Thank you.
>>>
>>> On 30/09/2010 23:22, Marquette, Ed wrote:
>>>> Well, Firebox is great for some things, but not for others.  With Citrix
>>>> you are, in effect, logged on to a remote computer, and the local client
>>>> receives only frames.  That's a bit over-simplified, but the concept is
>>>> that the programs run remotely, and the local client acts essentially as
>>>> a terminal.
>>>> The good thing is that you are, in fact, logged into the remote machine.
>>>> With Firebox, you are not logged into a remote machine -- just the
>>>> firebox.  So, it is like the disk I/O is piped to the remote servers.
>>>> Everything else is local.  You are running all your own applications
>>>> locally.  For that reason, JAWS doesn't have to be loaded anywhere other
>>>> than on the local machine.  For that very reason, however, it is not a
>>>> useful tool to log onto a remote computer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of chris hallsworth
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:03 PM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: JAWS Using CITRIX
>>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> Does Firebox allow you to log on to servers remotely then? If so can I
>>>> use a screen reader in a terminal session? Or can I only do this with
>>>> actual Remote Desktop/Terminal Services or Citrix.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   From Chris H in Derbyshire
>>>> E-mail and Facebook: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>> Please visit my blog at http://chrishallsworth.klangoblog.net.
>>>> If you need any computer help, please contact me. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> On 17/09/2010 02:52, Marquette, Ed wrote:
>>>>> John:
>>>>> I haven't used JAWS with Citrix since JFW version 7. Then, it was kind
>>>>> of a pain. Periodically, JAWS would claim that I didn't have proper
>>>>> authorization. Often, when the screen saver came on, it would
>>>>> disconnect. In fact, our systems administrator was so frustrated with
>>>>> JAWS that I was strongly encouraged to switch to Window-Eyes, which I
>>>>> did.
>>>>> I've now switched firms, and couldn't get Window-Eyes to work with our
>>>>> Web-based document management system. So, i switched back to JAWS (on
>>>>> Version 11).
>>>>> We have something called "Firebox." It is, apparently, a kind of VPN
>>>>> application. I run it from the desktop, enter my password, and
>>>>> suddenly,
>>>>> I have access to Network drives. All loads and saves go to the network
>>>>> drives (unless I specify otherwise). The applications, however, all run
>>>>> locally. It is the next best thing to being at my desk, in the office,
>>>>> with the laptop connected to the docking station. Sometimes, I even
>>>>> think it is better.
>>>>> JAWS resides only on my laptop. No administrators have to load anything
>>>>> on any servers. In short, it is wonderful.
>>>>> Going back to Citrix would be like going back to the stone age.
>>>>> I must confess; I have a strong preference for small applications that
>>>>> do their thing flawlessly and then get the heck out of the way. Firebox
>>>>> does exactly that. Sometimes, if I'm concentrating, I forget I'm
>>>>> remotely connected through Firebox. I could never, ever say that with
>>>>> Citrix, whether I was running JAWS or Window-Eyes.
>>>>> So, if your VPN is like Firebox or is Firebox, run, don't walk, to use
>>>>> that option.
>>>>> I used to have to deal with a Citrix administrator to fix something
>>>>> fairly frequently. He and I became fast friends. I've never called an
>>>>> administrator with Firebox.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>      *From:* jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>      *On Behalf Of *john vernaleken
>>>>>      *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:47 PM
>>>>>      *To:* jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>      *Subject:* JAWS Using CITRIX
>>>>>
>>>>>      Hello all,
>>>>>      Is anyone using CITRIX to connect to their workplace? I have the
>>>>>      chance to work from home and the two choices I have is to use VPN
>>>>> or
>>>>>      CITRIX.
>>>>>      Pros and Cons to each way.
>>>>>      Thanks
>>>>>      John
>>>>>
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