If you don't press ctrl+s in the Config Manager after making changes, on exiting it you will be asked "Save Current Settings?" You would then hit enter to say yes, if you want them to be saved. So, while ctrl+s is good to use, it isn't a must-use. (It is however a must when saving dictionary changes.) The customize punctuation dialogue is very dependent on the JAWS Voices Adjustment dialogue settings, so yes it is mostly better to set general punctuation in the latter dialogue. ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Spratt To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Yes, Yardbird, you've laid out the possibilities. I assumed Wendy was referring to the insert-j basic options. That's where I set punctuation. If I'm wrong, perhaps Wendy will clarify. I would be interested to know if she finds a solution. Meanwhile Patricia has written in, and I learn from her that this section of JAWS has changed. Like me, Patricia merged her settings from an earlier version. Unlike me, she realized JAWS 8 handles the punctuation choices differently. Note. I merged my 6.2 settings with JAWS 8, so far with complete success. Earlier messages said it couldn't be done. ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, Adrian. Let's see if we're talking about the same thing. What I thought she was describing was launching Configuration Manager, opening the Settings menu, arrowing down to the item for verbosity, and making some change to the part of it concerned with punctuation, then clicking on OK to close the menu, and then, naturally, saving the file, default or not, before exiting Configuration manger. I never heard of their being some "field" in Configuration Manager such as what you seem to be referring to, for one thing. It's got menus, menu items, and various dialogues within those items, some tabbed, and some simpler. But I'm starting to think this may be about just the simple thing of setting punctuation right there in the Jaws interface itself, under voices. You know, the interface you put up by pressing Insert J. You set speech rate, you set pitch change for uppercase,and so forth, and you set punctuation to that choice of none, some or all. If that's what she's talking about, it has nothing at all to do with saving a file, nor with Configuration manager. You see? Now, if by some chance, you're actually talking about an aspect of configuration manager I can't even imagine, please explain. Thanks. choose whtether it's going to beConf closing ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Spratt To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Yardbird, Sorry, but that's incorrect. Control-s isn't required in this particular field. ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Wendy, whatever the problem is, it is not that you're pressing control S before exiting Configuration Manager. That is exactly what you must do anytime you change settings that way. And it ought to work. So don't think about that idea any more. Just call Jaws tech support and tell them what happened. Maybe they can help, maybe they can diagnose it with you, maybe not. But honestly, it's not that you shouldn't be saving the file. If you don't save it, nothing is changed in the file that your new settings are meant to change. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Alling To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Hi, I'll give it a go without the control s and see what happens. Thanks. At 11:13 AM 12/01/2006, you wrote: >Wendy, > >I've never used control-s to save settings in this field, even >though it's needed to save dictionary and other settings. Perhaps >pressing that key combo is creating the problem rather than solving >it. Everything else you describe doing sounds right to me. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wendy Alling" <goldador@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Hi listers, > >I want to change the punctuation that I hear to some and somehow I >have missed the steps on how to do this. I bring up the >configuration manager and go to customize punctuation and set it to >some and go to ok and then do a control s to save changes. It does >not stay. What am I doing wrong? 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