Okay. I'm confused yet again, but I have a feeling it's all fine. Hope you get all your punctuation preference sorted out as you like them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings andn now I do understand what I'm doing. smiles. I was just using this as an example, because someone was saying that you don't do controrl-s in configuration manager when you can. Patricia msn: bc_sarah_fan@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Oh, Okay. I've taken similar precautions when I was new to something and didn't want to confuse myself by making a lot of adjustments at once and then forgetting what I'd done, just as you say. But you understand. I was just imagining making one or two changes when you know exactly what you're doing, and not saving the file each time you check a check box any more. I'm sure you'll get to that point of comfort and confidence with Configuration Manager. Meantime, you're right, there's no harm in being very careful and methodical. No harm at all. thanks for explaining. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings I know that. It's just that in the beginning when I was learning what each checkbox did I didn't want to check a whole bunch at once because I wouldn't remember what to uncheck if I didn't like a certain setting, because I had checked so many. that's why I did control-s individually to test out each setting and make sure that it did what I wanted it to do. I had experienced many times where I checked too many boxes and didn't remember what was checked. Patricia msn: bc_sarah_fan@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Patricia, P.S. But you know, you don't have to save the file (which is what you're in, in that interface called configuration Manager) until you're through making changes and wish to exit the Configuration Manager. Did you know that? You can make all sorts of changes, take as long as you like. Just remember to save before you exit, that's all. Hope that helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings you can do a save with control-s in configuration manager if you want to make more changes without closing configuration manager, or, when I do it is to test a change that I've made. control-s saves the change i made in configuration manager, I check to see whether or not the change is to my liking, and if I don't like it I can just alt-tab back to configuration manager and change it back without reopening it. Patricia msn: bc_sarah_fan@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, Adrian. Let's see if we're talking about the same thing. What I thought she was describing was launching Configuration Manager, opening the Settings menu, arrowing down to the item for verbosity, and making some change to the part of it concerned with punctuation, then clicking on OK to close the menu, and then, naturally, saving the file, default or not, before exiting Configuration manger. I never heard of their being some "field" in Configuration Manager such as what you seem to be referring to, for one thing. It's got menus, menu items, and various dialogues within those items, some tabbed, and some simpler. But I'm starting to think this may be about just the simple thing of setting punctuation right there in the Jaws interface itself, under voices. You know, the interface you put up by pressing Insert J. You set speech rate, you set pitch change for uppercase,and so forth, and you set punctuation to that choice of none, some or all. If that's what she's talking about, it has nothing at all to do with saving a file, nor with Configuration manager. You see? Now, if by some chance, you're actually talking about an aspect of configuration manager I can't even imagine, please explain. Thanks. choose whtether it's going to beConf closing ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Spratt To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Yardbird, Sorry, but that's incorrect. Control-s isn't required in this particular field. ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Wendy, whatever the problem is, it is not that you're pressing control S before exiting Configuration Manager. That is exactly what you must do anytime you change settings that way. And it ought to work. So don't think about that idea any more. Just call Jaws tech support and tell them what happened. Maybe they can help, maybe they can diagnose it with you, maybe not. But honestly, it's not that you shouldn't be saving the file. If you don't save it, nothing is changed in the file that your new settings are meant to change. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Alling To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Changing punctuation settings Hi, I'll give it a go without the control s and see what happens. Thanks. At 11:13 AM 12/01/2006, you wrote: >Wendy, > >I've never used control-s to save settings in this field, even >though it's needed to save dictionary and other settings. Perhaps >pressing that key combo is creating the problem rather than solving >it. Everything else you describe doing sounds right to me. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wendy Alling" <goldador@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Hi listers, > >I want to change the punctuation that I hear to some and somehow I >have missed the steps on how to do this. I bring up the >configuration manager and go to customize punctuation and set it to >some and go to ok and then do a control s to save changes. It does >not stay. What am I doing wrong? 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