Hiya gang, Thought I'd resend this as no help on this issue yet I have no intentions for awhile anyway to either install Jaws 8 or Internet explorer 7 because right now all of us users are testers for free or at a price, so if anyone like me lives alone and system crashes are a fear as no sighted helpers are around please don't rush to install anything new. Silly me updated my Jaws 7.10.452 to 7.10.500 anyway I can roll this back to 7.10.452?, as I'm finding a few little flitches since Ive updated, and also is 7.10.500 only an update for IE7 or does it fix a few other little things? cheers, Jim