[jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks

  • From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:18:38 -0400

the Logos Bible software uses wpf. I have jaws 12 and cannot read the text 
panels. they have included a function to read aloud the text and they have 
redone some of the combo boxes and list boxes so we can read them but there 
is still a lot we cannot do in this program. You can tab through the areas 
and when you hear "panel" you know that is where the text is supposed to be. 
Then you can hit the applications key to save it but I don't think there is 
any way a blind person can do real bible study including looking things up 
with the wpf programming language since the text can't be seen so can't be 
clicked on.

Dean


-----Original Message----- 
From: Manish Agrawal
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:58 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks

Jaws 12 - the latest stable  patch.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:09 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks

Hi,
Which JAWS version have you tried?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manish Agrawal
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:14 PM
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] UIA - WPF and textblocks

Hi,
At work, I am working on creating a WPF application , which is almost
completely inaccessible (as expected) out of the box.
There are several textBlocks on the screen that present useful information
to the user but are not a part of the tab order and never get focus.
Jaws does a fairly good job with these in Silverlight where it loads
everything in a virtual buffer. However, with a WPF app, jaws doesn't pick
up anything at all.
Also, UIA exposes a whole lot of information with grids but none of the
screen readers seem to give me even very basic support for content in
tables, let alone full table support.
Combo boxes are announced as "combo boxes" and that is the end of it. I
cannot figure out any way of reading the contents and current selection
inside a combo box.
With NVDA, I am able to get to most of the textblocks and grid cells  using
object navigation. Object navigation is however, hardly a good way of
accessing an application as a user and gives very little sense of the layout
of the content on the screen.
I also tried the demo version of the new window eyes 7.5 (it has UIA support
now) and got results comparable to NVDA but because of lack of WE's
capability or my lack of practice with that product (not to mention the very
irritating 30 minute limit before re-boot), I couldn't make much progress.
Has anyone done any work on these problems and made any more progress -
specially with jaws or any other screen reader?




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