[jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks
- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:32:15 -0400
Jamal
On 3/21/2011 2:11 PM, Dean Masters wrote:
> I know Logos is supposed to be working on accessibility. they did change one
> combo box so that we can use the library.
>
> I think it is just the nature of the beast where you can't use the jaws
> cursor to read any text in wpf. Hopefully it will get figured out by the
> different parties sowe can actually read the text on the screen and use the
> mouse buttons on it.
>
> Dean
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Chapman
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:32 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks
>
> well that would suck majorly! whose job would it be then to bring decent
> accessibility handles to this platform, or whatever it's called.rendering
> engine or whatever.
>
> is it an fs thing that they need to support properly? or a wpf thing, that
> it's not exposing text to us like we need it to.
>
> whose door do we go knockin on to get this resolved.
> is WPF an ms thing?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean Masters"<dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:18 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks
>
>
>> the Logos Bible software uses wpf. I have jaws 12 and cannot read the text
>> panels. they have included a function to read aloud the text and they have
>> redone some of the combo boxes and list boxes so we can read them but
>> there
>> is still a lot we cannot do in this program. You can tab through the areas
>> and when you hear "panel" you know that is where the text is supposed to
>> be.
>> Then you can hit the applications key to save it but I don't think there
>> is
>> any way a blind person can do real bible study including looking things up
>> with the wpf programming language since the text can't be seen so can't be
>> clicked on.
>>
>> Dean
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Manish Agrawal
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:58 AM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks
>>
>> Jaws 12 - the latest stable patch.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:09 AM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: UIA - WPF and textblocks
>>
>> Hi,
>> Which JAWS version have you tried?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manish Agrawal
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:14 PM
>> To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] UIA - WPF and textblocks
>>
>> Hi,
>> At work, I am working on creating a WPF application , which is almost
>> completely inaccessible (as expected) out of the box.
>> There are several textBlocks on the screen that present useful information
>> to the user but are not a part of the tab order and never get focus.
>> Jaws does a fairly good job with these in Silverlight where it loads
>> everything in a virtual buffer. However, with a WPF app, jaws doesn't pick
>> up anything at all.
>> Also, UIA exposes a whole lot of information with grids but none of the
>> screen readers seem to give me even very basic support for content in
>> tables, let alone full table support.
>> Combo boxes are announced as "combo boxes" and that is the end of it. I
>> cannot figure out any way of reading the contents and current selection
>> inside a combo box.
>> With NVDA, I am able to get to most of the textblocks and grid cells
>> using
>> object navigation. Object navigation is however, hardly a good way of
>> accessing an application as a user and gives very little sense of the
>> layout
>> of the content on the screen.
>> I also tried the demo version of the new window eyes 7.5 (it has UIA
>> support
>> now) and got results comparable to NVDA but because of lack of WE's
>> capability or my lack of practice with that product (not to mention the
>> very
>> irritating 30 minute limit before re-boot), I couldn't make much progress.
>> Has anyone done any work on these problems and made any more progress -
>> specially with jaws or any other screen reader?
>>
>>
>>
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