[jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
- From: Doug Lee <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 17:48:19 -0500
Your message may have been cut short for some reason...
I think the .ini stuff is built into the NSIS DLLs; I don't recall
manipulating them myself in that installer, though I definitely could
be forgetting something. I'm pretty sure the Nullsoft function
reference lists some functions for ini file access though.
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 05:20:48PM -0500, Jonathan C Cohn wrote:
Doug,
Thanks for the encouragement, I had started looking at the source directory of
the BX installer last week. I did not yet find how you manipulate INI files,
which is my first concern at this moment. I know that JAWS and VBS can do this,
but it appeared that the VBS code I found in the BX installer was only to merge
use statements into the default.jss files a much more complex routine set than
INI files
, but as a long time perl programmer,
> On Jan 10, 2015, at 13:47, Doug Lee <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Belated reply as I've been remiss at monitoring this list for a while:
>
> Ideas and code can be gleaned from BX by unpacking the BX installer
> with 7Zip or a compatible program and looking in the src/installer
> folder.
>
> I don't register DLLs or handle binary/non-binary choices in my
> installers though.
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 02:39:20PM -0600, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
> Yep, that is the problem I am running into. There seems to be a need to dig
> pretty deep into other obscure mechanisms in order to simply package a set of
> jaws scritps. I certainly do feel a need for a simpler approach.
>
> I think one might want to go back as far as XP. I hear from people all the
> time who are sticking with it for as long as they can get bye with it. All
> later Windows versions seem to present us with UI quirks that folks would
> rather not hassle with if they had a choice.
> And, it would be good if such an installer gave you the option to include
> binaries, and to only recompile the jss files that are provided.
> One last thing is the ability to register a DLL.
>
> Since I speak English, my opinion would be that english only would suffice
> for now.
>
> I have some questions about localization, coming under separate thread.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean Farrow
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:36 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>
> Hi,
> The other alternative is WiX from:
> Http://www.wixtoolset.org/
> This is an xml-based msi (Windows installer) creation tool.
>
> The problems with the nsis installers currently are that it doesn't support
> compiling scripts on the fly, finds two many directories as I recall and
> doesn't support additional languages.
>
> I looked in to the effort required in creating something with WiX a while
> back, we would need to create some form of packager as this does get pretty
> involved, essentially copying xml fragments for each jaws version.
> If I were to reserect this effort in the new year, what would be the minimum
> operating system people would want? Also would people want multiple
> languages, or would just English suffice for now? Would people be interested
> in this being an open-source project on say GitHub? Also would a web-based
> packaging service be appropriate or would people want to package locally?
> Thoughts appreciated.
> Kind regards
> Sean.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Huey
> Sent: 29 December 2014 03:17
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>
> I dunno, NSIS may be the best choice there is. It's comparable all the way
> back to windows xp, is open source, and supports a form of modular component
> plugin functionality which could (theoretically) enable code for finding
> required JAWS versioning details. It's also a package installer, and can
> support custom front end design to produce something clean up front. Maybe
> the biggest boon would be to just design a packagER (emphasis on the E-R
> there) for use with NSIS to wrap the arbitrary JAWS script sets into the
> installer to make it easy to do.
>
>
>
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Jim Snowbarger <Snowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys, Hope your having a nice holiday.
>> So, where do we stand on general purpose jaws script installers these days?
>> I have the idea that JSX is out of date, and that it will not be
>> further maintained.
>> I have NSIS, but it is pretty complicated, and probably more than one
>> would need.
>> Is there one that will handle all the myriad OS's and jaws versions?
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>>
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