[jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers

  • From: "Jim Snowbarger" <snowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:52:56 -0600

Cuoong,
I wanted to close the installer because it was packaged with a bunch of other, 
unrelated software.
I never accept an installer that  seems inclined to put other junk om my 
machine that I did not ask for.
Especially, when the way to decline the extra junk is not crystal clear.
Thanks for the suggestion.  I'm glad you are having good luck with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dang Manh Cuong
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 12:48 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers

Hi
Not sure I understand you all
JS install just a wizard to build the installer using inno setup. you can 
create a template file then edit it for each package.
Why do you want to close the installer using Alt+f4? For me, i usually press 
ESC.
Cuong
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Snowbarger" <snowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:54 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers


> Well, for the benefit of others, JS_ installer seems to come bundled 
> with tons of unrelated software that you probably don't want.  And, it 
> is slightly less than clear how to  refuse the extra offers.  Alt+f4 
> will not close the installer. These irregularities caused me to think  
> this might not be a good option.
> Stuff like that doesn't make it onto my computer.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dang Manh Cuong
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:25 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>
> Hi
> The site URL is no longer available. Please download the setup from:
> http://tinyurl.com/kbslmr5
> Also download the inno setup from www.jrsoftware.org Cuong
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Snowbarger" <snowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:25 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>
>
>> Dang,
>> Can you provide the source URL for that?
>> Thanks.
>> It looks like JSX doesn't work at all in windows 7, with jaws 15.
>> It fails to find the enu folder.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dang Manh 
>> Cuong
>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:51 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>>
>> Hi
>> For me, I use JS install from accessible program with Inno setup.
>> It give a script with file size over 300kb, but if you just want to 
>> do a simple package, then you should use it because you can create 
>> your installer usign the wizard.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Snowbarger" <snowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:39 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>>
>>
>>> Yep,  that is the problem I am running into.  There seems to be a 
>>> need to dig pretty deep into other obscure mechanisms in order to 
>>> simply package a set of jaws scritps.  I certainly do feel a need 
>>> for a simpler approach.
>>>
>>> I think  one might want to go back as far as XP.  I hear from people 
>>> all the time who are sticking with it for as long as they can get 
>>> bye with it.
>>> All later Windows versions seem to present us with UI quirks that 
>>> folks would rather not hassle with if they had a choice.
>>> And, it would be good if such an installer gave you the option to 
>>> include binaries, and to only recompile the jss files that are provided.
>>> One last thing is the ability to register a DLL.
>>>
>>> Since I speak English, my opinion would be that english only would 
>>> suffice for now.
>>>
>>> I have some questions about localization, coming under separate thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean Farrow
>>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:36 AM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> The other alternative is WiX from:
>>> Http://www.wixtoolset.org/
>>> This is an xml-based msi (Windows installer) creation tool.
>>>
>>> The problems with the nsis installers currently are that it doesn't 
>>> support compiling scripts on the fly, finds two many directories as 
>>> I recall and doesn't support additional languages.
>>>
>>> I looked in to the effort required in creating something with WiX a 
>>> while back, we would need to create some form of packager as this 
>>> does get pretty involved, essentially copying xml fragments for each 
>>> jaws version.
>>> If I were to reserect this effort in the new year, what would be the 
>>> minimum operating system people would want? Also would people want 
>>> multiple languages, or would just English suffice for now? Would 
>>> people be interested in this being an open-source project on say 
>>> GitHub? Also would a web-based packaging service be appropriate or 
>>> would people want to package locally?
>>> Thoughts appreciated.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Sean.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Huey
>>> Sent: 29 December 2014 03:17
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripts Installers
>>>
>>> I dunno, NSIS may be the best choice there is. It's comparable all 
>>> the way back to windows xp, is open source, and supports a form of 
>>> modular component plugin functionality which could (theoretically) 
>>> enable code for finding required JAWS versioning details. It's also 
>>> a package installer, and can support custom front end design to 
>>> produce something clean up front. Maybe the biggest boon would be to 
>>> just design a packagER (emphasis on the E-R there) for use with NSIS 
>>> to wrap the arbitrary JAWS script sets into the installer to make it 
>>> easy to do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Jim Snowbarger 
>>>> <Snowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,  Hope your having a nice holiday.
>>>> So, where do we stand on general purpose jaws script installers 
>>>> these days?
>>>> I have the idea that JSX is out of date, and that it will not be 
>>>> further maintained.
>>>> I have NSIS, but it is pretty complicated, and probably more than 
>>>> one would need.
>>>> Is there one that will handle all the myriad OS's and jaws versions?
>>>> Any recommendations?
>>>>
>>>>
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