[jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 14:40:58 +1100
Wow Lee! Well thanks so much for the positive affirmation and response!
So glad something of my blatherings proved helpful to you! That is
incredibly sad also though, that jaws cursor cannot read anything in that
dialog. Man that drives me crazy when we get totally broken OffScreenModel
to that degree, that the screen is just invisible to jaws cursor.
That is just one of my big fears in upgrading iTunes at all!
Sometimes clicking on stuff is just the only ready answer available to wake
up focus, and how can one just be reasonably expected to feel any degree of
comfort/reassurance, in just performing a routeJawsToPc and blindly
leftClicking there to hope for the best!
Yet, that seems to be what we are reduced to sometimes.
disconcerting to say the least.
But I'm real glad it worked for you.
Sounds then like an iTunes focus issue to me. like that they aren't
properly allowing tabbing focus to the edit boxes.
Probably not jolly tested. Since who else tabs between controls!
John Martin have you perhaps got any lead-ins to iTunes developers to alert
them of this issue?
Lee if you have inclination, I reckon it'd be worth downloading, installing
and trialing NVDA on this, just to see whether it has the same problem.
Although I can't yet provide you with the RouteMouseToFocus item command in
there, as I keep forgetting it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee" <lee.ramsden@xxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:41 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> Ok very odd indeed. Your a genius. Although, the way it finally has worked
> is to simply lift mouse click in the box. Weirdly, none of the navigation
> keys work. So routing anything to anything fails just comes up with
> "blank"
> but mouse clicking then does put you in the edit box. Thanks a million for
> your suggestions. Very much appreciated.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:02 PM
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
>
>> Hi Lee, hmmm. Wow! Then it sounds like either iTunes has somehow
>> reClassed
>> these, or jaws has gone wonky somehow. so, hmmm. two things occur to me
>> to
>> ask.
>>
>> 1. I've never had much success with this so I am skeptical it'll do much,
>> but have you tried the reClass feature in JAWS whilst focused on one of
>> those readOnly edit controls?
>>
>> 2. what happens when you route JawsToPc whilst focused on one of the
>> ReadOnly Edit boxes. Can you Read the figures there? either with
>> Jaws+NumPad5, or CapsLock+K, or with the ReadCurrentLine key? Does moving
>> leftRight arrow allow you to read the figures there character by
>> character,
>> either trialing left or right first? AS we don't know whether the jaws
>> cursor will end up at the front or the rear of the number?
>> and.
>> 3. have you tried clicking numpad slash, or laptop CapsLock +8 I think it
>> is, to see if this brings any joy and allows them to become proper
>> editable
>> boxes?
>>
>> 4. have you per chance tried navigating the boxes with NVDA
>> Screen-reader?
>> Just as another tester to see what it makes of these boxes?
>>
>>
>> John have you got any thoughts? Can anyone else using the same version of
>> iTunes/Jaws reproduce this for lee? I'm only using iTunes 10.7, and
>> jaws
>> 12, and am not willing to upgrade at this stage to iTunes 12, as I'm not
>> being forced to yet.
>>
>> From: "Lee" <lee.ramsden@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:17 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
>>
>>
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>
>>> iTunes 12.0.1 and JAWS 15. It is odd because the edit boxes are still
>>> there
>>> after the checkboxes. However, according to JAWS as you tab they are
>>> read
>>> only. Just to be on the safe side I did try editing them anyway. It
>>> wouldn't
>>> let me put any figures in.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:45 AM
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: ITunes script
>>>
>>>> Oh far out! have they broken this? I'm in iTunes 10.7.0.21 still, with
>>>> jaws
>>>> 12.0.1186,
>>>> and this options dialog is *totally* accessible! each edit box for
>>>> changing
>>>> times shows up in tab order straight after each checkbox!
>>>>
>>>> Can you tell us what version of iTunes and jaws you are using for this?
>>>> Jaws+Control+V, should tell you iTunes version, since at leats here,
>>>> the
>>>> "about iTunes" dialog *is* totally inaccessible to jaws/NVDA.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lee" <lee.ramsden@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Itunes script
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know if it is possible to edit a song in Itunes to change
>>>>> =
>>>>> the start and end times of the song? Or as anyone written a script
>>>>> that
>>>>> =
>>>>> can do this? If you pick a song, go to "get info" it brings up lots of
>>>>> =
>>>>> info re the song. In there is options. If you click this you then tab
>>>>> =
>>>>> through and you get a start time checkbox and an end time checkbox. =
>>>>> totally accessible. However, you can't actually enter the edit box to
>>>>> =
>>>>> change the times. Interestingly by using OCR you can then manage on a
>>>>> =
>>>>> hit and miss basis to change these. I've found more miss than hit
>>>>> mind.
>>>>> =
>>>>> So it should be possible to edit these. As my scripting knowledge is =
>>>>> extremely limited I'm asking here. It maybe easy or hard. It also
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> =
>>>>> there is another way of editing these that I can't work out. Any help
>>>>> =
>>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>> Regards Lee
>>>>>
>>>>>
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