[jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
- From: Kaveinthran Pulanthran <kavein2211@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:31:50 +0800
in terms of accessibility, which version of ITunes is the best?
On 12/16/14, Geoff Chapman <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Wow Lee! Well thanks so much for the positive affirmation and response!
> So glad something of my blatherings proved helpful to you! That is
> incredibly sad also though, that jaws cursor cannot read anything in that
> dialog. Man that drives me crazy when we get totally broken OffScreenModel
> to that degree, that the screen is just invisible to jaws cursor.
>
> That is just one of my big fears in upgrading iTunes at all!
> Sometimes clicking on stuff is just the only ready answer available to wake
>
> up focus, and how can one just be reasonably expected to feel any degree of
>
> comfort/reassurance, in just performing a routeJawsToPc and blindly
> leftClicking there to hope for the best!
>
> Yet, that seems to be what we are reduced to sometimes.
> disconcerting to say the least.
> But I'm real glad it worked for you.
> Sounds then like an iTunes focus issue to me. like that they aren't
> properly allowing tabbing focus to the edit boxes.
> Probably not jolly tested. Since who else tabs between controls!
> John Martin have you perhaps got any lead-ins to iTunes developers to alert
>
> them of this issue?
>
> Lee if you have inclination, I reckon it'd be worth downloading, installing
>
> and trialing NVDA on this, just to see whether it has the same problem.
> Although I can't yet provide you with the RouteMouseToFocus item command in
>
> there, as I keep forgetting it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee" <lee.ramsden@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:41 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
>
>
>>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> Ok very odd indeed. Your a genius. Although, the way it finally has
>> worked
>> is to simply lift mouse click in the box. Weirdly, none of the navigation
>> keys work. So routing anything to anything fails just comes up with
>> "blank"
>> but mouse clicking then does put you in the edit box. Thanks a million
>> for
>> your suggestions. Very much appreciated.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:02 PM
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
>>
>>> Hi Lee, hmmm. Wow! Then it sounds like either iTunes has somehow
>>> reClassed
>>> these, or jaws has gone wonky somehow. so, hmmm. two things occur to me
>>> to
>>> ask.
>>>
>>> 1. I've never had much success with this so I am skeptical it'll do
>>> much,
>>> but have you tried the reClass feature in JAWS whilst focused on one of
>>> those readOnly edit controls?
>>>
>>> 2. what happens when you route JawsToPc whilst focused on one of the
>>> ReadOnly Edit boxes. Can you Read the figures there? either with
>>> Jaws+NumPad5, or CapsLock+K, or with the ReadCurrentLine key? Does
>>> moving
>>> leftRight arrow allow you to read the figures there character by
>>> character,
>>> either trialing left or right first? AS we don't know whether the jaws
>>> cursor will end up at the front or the rear of the number?
>>> and.
>>> 3. have you tried clicking numpad slash, or laptop CapsLock +8 I think
>>> it
>>> is, to see if this brings any joy and allows them to become proper
>>> editable
>>> boxes?
>>>
>>> 4. have you per chance tried navigating the boxes with NVDA
>>> Screen-reader?
>>> Just as another tester to see what it makes of these boxes?
>>>
>>>
>>> John have you got any thoughts? Can anyone else using the same version
>>> of
>>> iTunes/Jaws reproduce this for lee? I'm only using iTunes 10.7, and
>>> jaws
>>> 12, and am not willing to upgrade at this stage to iTunes 12, as I'm not
>>> being forced to yet.
>>>
>>> From: "Lee" <lee.ramsden@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:17 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Itunes script
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>>
>>>> iTunes 12.0.1 and JAWS 15. It is odd because the edit boxes are still
>>>> there
>>>> after the checkboxes. However, according to JAWS as you tab they are
>>>> read
>>>> only. Just to be on the safe side I did try editing them anyway. It
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> let me put any figures in.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:45 AM
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: ITunes script
>>>>
>>>>> Oh far out! have they broken this? I'm in iTunes 10.7.0.21 still, with
>>>>> jaws
>>>>> 12.0.1186,
>>>>> and this options dialog is *totally* accessible! each edit box for
>>>>> changing
>>>>> times shows up in tab order straight after each checkbox!
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you tell us what version of iTunes and jaws you are using for
>>>>> this?
>>>>> Jaws+Control+V, should tell you iTunes version, since at leats here,
>>>>> the
>>>>> "about iTunes" dialog *is* totally inaccessible to jaws/NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Lee" <lee.ramsden@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Itunes script
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>>>>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if it is possible to edit a song in Itunes to change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> the start and end times of the song? Or as anyone written a script
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> can do this? If you pick a song, go to "get info" it brings up lots
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> info re the song. In there is options. If you click this you then tab
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> through and you get a start time checkbox and an end time checkbox. =
>>>>>> totally accessible. However, you can't actually enter the edit box to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> change the times. Interestingly by using OCR you can then manage on a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> hit and miss basis to change these. I've found more miss than hit
>>>>>> mind.
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> So it should be possible to edit these. As my scripting knowledge is
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> extremely limited I'm asking here. It maybe easy or hard. It also
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> there is another way of editing these that I can't work out. Any help
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>>> Regards Lee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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