Hi tristram When you say Macintosh are you meaning the computer desktop thingy, coz if you are, then OS10 (known as Tiger) is perfectly accessible as they have introduced a built in screen reader which by all accounts is very good and extremely responsive as it is the operating system and not a bolt on like Jaws. My wife is talking about getting a Mac and I am very interested in seeing how it works for me. Ultimately, this has to be the way to go, where the screen reader is an integral part of the OS and not a piece of software that is squeezed in. I'd be interested to hear what others might think. Regards ... Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players Thank your lucky stars you are not using a Macintosh at the moment where currently access is still (to my knowledge) non existant at any price. The only other alternative PC wise is Anapod from Red Chair Software but you will still be spending a similar amount of cash, the current Anapod apppears to have support for the Shuffle and the Nano. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:08 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players not strictly jaws related this one but accessibility of the software is. With many mp3 players you just put the player into the USB port and it is seen as another disk drive, no problem. but I do not know of any way of accessing I-Tunes that comes with the IPod Shuffle unless you are prepared to pay £30 extra for Brian Hartgen's scripts. I know he has to make money and I do not criticise him for charging for them. Never the less, I don't like the idea of having to buy a screenreader and then still having to pay more than everyone else just to access an mp3 player. I am not sure if you do absolutely need to use I-tunes or whether there is a free alternative. Cheers Graham. Graham Page Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Wilson To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players Tom I have just been wondering that myself. Returned one last week because it proved not very accessible. I have ordered an Apple Shuffle iPod Shuffle from Amazon. It is rather like those little memory sticks and works the same way. However, it is only 512 mb in memory size and holds around 120 songs. Perhaps they will make ones with larger memories in the future. It will do me however if it is accessible. I ordered it because unlike most others, it does not have a screen and apparently can be used without even looking at the thing. It is a fairly basic one I think, play, pause, stop, forward and back and can be set to play tracks in order or randomly by the slide of a switch, hence the name "Shuffle." There is no radio or any of the fancy bits you get with other players, but I think if you just want accessible music on the go it sounds perfect. Has been dispatched by Amazon today and should arrive in the next couple of days, so I will post a message on here and let Members know how I get on. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TOM REID Sent: 09 January 2006 10:17 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Accessible mp3 players Subject says it all. Any good ones for somebody with no sight? 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