Or you could take the discussion to the list below, PC-Audio from memory is rather busy and perhaps more specific answer may be gained from the list below. To join the Ipod list send a blank message to blindipod-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word subscribe in the subject line. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Matthews" <mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players Perhaps the PC Audio list would be an alternative. Check out: http://www.pc-audio.org/ Cheers, =20 Mark =20 Mark Matthews Cardiff, Wales, UK E-mail/MSN/Windows Messenger: mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: MMatthews1981 Mobile: 07779 147874 Home Page: http://www.qsl.net/gw0wgk/ -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 10 January 2006 14:26 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players is it not possible then to just transfer files to the IPod as though it = were just another disk drive in the way that other sensible music playing = devices work? This would remove the need for any specialist software and hence = any=20 issues of JAWS accessibility. As far as I can tell, this subject really belongs somewhere else as = there=20 are plenty of MP3 players around but the issue with most is not really=20 accessibility of the software because there is none needed, certainly = for=20 Windows XP. The issues tend to be more about ease of control of the = units.=20 many functions are menu driven and awkward to find. I wonder which list = would be the best to discuss this? does anyone know of anyy lists that = have had this discussion recently? Cheers Graham Graham Page Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players Thank your lucky stars you are not using a Macintosh at the moment where currently access is still (to my knowledge) non existant at any price. = The only other alternative PC wise is Anapod from Red Chair Software but you will still be spending a similar amount of cash, the current Anapod = apppears to have support for the Shuffle and the Nano. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:08 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players not strictly jaws related this one but accessibility of the software is. With many mp3 players you just put the player into the USB port and it = is seen as another disk drive, no problem. but I do not know of any way of accessing I-Tunes that comes with the = IPod Shuffle unless you are prepared to pay =A330 extra for Brian Hartgen's scripts. I know he has to make money and I do not criticise him for charging for them. Never the less, I don't like the idea of having to buy a = screenreader and then still having to pay more than everyone else just to access an = mp3 player. I am not sure if you do absolutely need to use I-tunes or = whether there is a free alternative. Cheers Graham. Graham Page Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barbara Wilson To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Accessible mp3 players Tom I have just been wondering that myself. Returned one last week because = it proved not very accessible. I have ordered an Apple Shuffle iPod Shuffle from Amazon. It is rather like those little memory sticks and works the = same way. However, it is only 512 mb in memory size and holds around 120 = songs. Perhaps they will make ones with larger memories in the future. It will = do me however if it is accessible. I ordered it because unlike most others, = it does not have a screen and apparently can be used without even looking = at the thing. It is a fairly basic one I think, play, pause, stop, forward = and back and can be set to play tracks in order or randomly by the slide of = a switch, hence the name "Shuffle." There is no radio or any of the fancy = bits you get with other players, but I think if you just want accessible = music on the go it sounds perfect. Has been dispatched by Amazon today and should arrive in the next couple of days, so I will post a message on here and = let Members know how I get on. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TOM REID Sent: 09 January 2006 10:17 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Accessible mp3 players Subject says it all. Any good ones for somebody with no sight? 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