[iyonix-support] Re: Correcting Firefox assumptions
- From: Iyonix.2006a@xxxxxxxxx
- To: iyonix-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:16:25 +0200
Hi,
I resend this since perhaps it didn't get through since I didn't get any
reply to my questions. In addition I copy it to peter@xxxxxxxxxx just in
case since I would indeed appreceate some feed back on my bug report
near the bottom.
Thanks!
In message <8062dcb54f.HzN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Iyonix.2006a@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> In message <48627AA9.6070805@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Peter Naulls <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > it's very frustrating to realize that the programmer bypassed the
> > > Operating System routines and implemented his own, faulty ones.
> >
> > Firefox doesn't not subvert any RISC OS routines or drivers. Apart from
> > that is, UnixLib (vs SCL) and Tinct (vs Select alpha plotting) but those
> > are incidental to issues mentioned here and provide functionality that
> > is otherwise absent, and in any case are also used by NetSurf.
>
> Peter, I'm a bit irritated now....
>
> The complaint was that Firefox "bypassed" OS routines and you state that
> Firefox does not "subvert" and OS routines and somewhere later in the
> thread we learn that Firefox relies on ChoX11 which uses inkey to read
> the keyboard and is hardcoded to UK.
>
>
> Please be so kind to shed a bit more light on this, especially
> explaining what you mean by "does not subvert" - agreed inkey is also
> part of the OS but not using the full keyboard reading code and is not
> supporting the keyboard layout defined for the system is something I
> would consider to be "bypassing" OS routines and implementing own ones.
> (But perhaps when you wrote your aforementioned statement you assumed
> something and now you know that you use this code which lacks some
> features so that your point of view on this changed.)
>
>
> Just to make sure there is no mis-understanding: I do *not* complain
> that currently ChoX11 and thus Firefox use a keyboard input technique
> that is hard coded to UK (as far as I understood); all I kindly ask for
> is clarification so that I understand what you mean.
>
>
> Furthermore to help us help you you: When you got the information
> > Firefox doesn't recognise the French keyboard (RSC OS does it well)
> you wrote
> > This isn't a bug report since I don't know what "doesn't recognize"
> > means.
> What exactly to you need in such a case? Would it have been sufficient
> to e.g. state this (if yes, please consider it as bug report):
>
> When I press the key labelled "/" (it's shift-7) then in the URL I get a
> question mark, the ' (shift-#) results in the @ and the Del key doesn't
> seem to do anything - strangely as far as I can tell all other keys are
> fine despite me having a German keyboard (I would have expected Z and Y
> to have been swapped as is usual with a UK keyboard encoding not to
> mention that most special chars are on differnt placesä). Even the
> German Umlauts appear in Firefox URL.
--
Herbert
Herbert zur Nedden
German Archimedes Group http://www.gag.de
Herausgeber DER deutschen RISC OS-Zeitschrift.
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