[isapros] Re: SCCM and ISA - Worth a shot!

  • From: "Stefaan Pouseele" <stefaan.pouseele@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 17:41:00 +0100

Hi Jason, 

 

my reasoning, whenever client certs are involved, use server publishing.
Nothing ISA can do to enhance the security. 

 

HTH, 

Stefaan

 

From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason Jones
Sent: vrijdag 1 februari 2008 16:49
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: SCCM and ISA - Worth a shot!

 

Hi All,

 

Any more thoughts on this?

 

From what I now understand, the SCCM client is using a client auth cert to
authenticate to the IIS instance running on the SCCM management point
(mutual cert auth).

 

We are getting  close to SCCM deployments where customers want IBCM, but the
only ISA Server solution I can get working is to use SSL tunnelling (server
publishing). I have tried various web publishing configurations and none of
them seem to work - I have tried the following:

 

.         Simple web publishing , ISA listener with no authentication and
"allow client to authenticate" defined in the delegation tab - assumed this
would just use pass-through auth to the IIS website to allow for this to do
the client auth.

.         Pre-auth web publishing, ISA listener using client cert auth and
then KCD to delegate to IIS.

 

Do we think that one of these should work, or is web publishing for SCCM
IBCM fundamentally flawed?

 

Anyone actually got it working??? I know SCCM is quite new, but are we just
too ahead of the curve here?

 

Cheers

 

JJ

 

From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason Jones
Sent: 19 October 2007 08:50
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: SCCM and ISA - Worth a shot!

 

Hi t,

 

I was hoping to do the former and then use KCD, but from what I gather SCCM
is using computer based certs - I believe this makes things harder?. Not
really comes across this scenario before.I currently have it working in the
lab using server publishing, but I cannot bear the thought of doing this for
customers.

 

 

From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: 18 October 2007 22:15
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: SCCM and ISA - Worth a shot!

 

While I've not used SCCM, I've done a good bit of work with different
certificate-based authentication models.  Are you considering using a
web-listener configured for SSL Client Certificate Authentication, or just
web-publishing to a back-end web server where it will do its own
certificate-to-user mapping?

 

t

 

From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason Jones
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:11 PM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: SCCM and ISA - Worth a shot!

 

Did this Q get hidden within Amy's posts or is it a big fat "don't know"? J

 

From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason Jones
Sent: 17 October 2007 00:49
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] SCCM and ISA - Worth a shot!

 

Hi,

 

Has anyone used ISA with System Centre Configuration Manager (SCCM) yet?
Specifically when using Native mode (e.g. full-on PKI mode).

 

The initial documentation is a little patchy and seems to contradict itself
between using Web Publishing and Server Publishing when using Internet based
clients that cannot back into the CM server. The SCCM documentation talks
about lots of perimeter and internet-facing scenarios, but I want to try and
use an ISA based model in a similar way to protecting Exchange or
SharePoint. A quote from Jim comes to mind "..we don't need no stinking
DMZs" 

 

Ideally I want to use Web Publishing, but all communications in SCCM utilise
client certificate based authentication.

 

Am I right in thinking I can use ISA Web publishing combined with KCD to
secure access from CM clients to the CM server?

 

Answers that tell me that I have to use Server Publishing will make me cry,
so please be sensitive 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers

 

JJ

 

 

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