RE: what happens if firewall service stop?

  • From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:47:42 -0700

You really do not have a clue of what the others were trying to tell you, do
you?

Sounds like the "Certified Network Expert" that a client called in to
provide internet access to all computers when then switched from dialup
(through Small Business Server 4.0) to a satellite connection.

You going to love this.

He pulled a new drop for each computer, installed a 2nd NIC in each
computer, and routed those to a hub connected to the Satellite router.

All because my recommended method of upgrading the server from Back Office
4.0 to Small Business Server 2000 including new hardware.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:54 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop?
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> And may I suggest you not to waste my time anymore?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: October 6, 2004 12:34 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop?
> 
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> You completely miss the point.....
> 
> If you've taken the Microsoft Class and you've passed the Microsoft
> certification test for ISA, you should know what happens when you turn off
> the firewall service.....  If you don't, then there is something EXTREMELY
> WRONG with you having a CERTIFICATION that says you understand how to
> install a product, configure a product, and support a product.
> 
> My problem is with people with "certifications" that have no idea with
what
> they are doing.  People like you.
> 
> May I suggest going back to your place that you took the class and getting
> your money back.  Apparently you do not understand most of the basic
> functions of the software.  Then go back to the testing center, slap the
> person behind the desk, and tell them to tell Microsoft that you passed
the
> test without understanding anything at all, either that, or you cheated.
> Not saying that you did, but those are the only 2 reasonable answers that
> exist.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:04 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop?
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Your problems with other parties are not my concern and I don't need you
to
> give me a job.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: October 6, 2004 9:46 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop?
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> You've taken the course AND passed the cert?  Oh hell, that makes you more
> qualified to answer questions than me then, ya know, since I haven't sat
the
> test yet.....
> 
> And all the MCSE's wonder why we don't hire them.....
> 
> I'm a little bitter today.  I spent 4 hours on the phone yesterday with a
> 3rd party support FE who is an NT 4.0 MCSE who has NEVER IN HIS LIFE
> INSTALLED NT 4.0!!!!  And to make it worse, he pulled out ANOTHER NIC from
> the system without uninstalling it first....  Bah.... Time to get some
> coffee.....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:52 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop?
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Yes I always say I am newbie because there is always room to learn. But
that
> also doesn't mean you become rude and think you know better than others. I
> have done the ISA course and have my cert too. It's a while I am using it
my
> friend. I believe every question if worth to ask as might bring up some
new
> points. So if it bothers you dealing with this, please don't reply.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: October 6, 2004 8:42 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop?
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Obviously you have no idea how ISA works. I would suggest starting at
> the very beginning and read all you can about it before you start
> playing with it.  Isaserver.org is the best place to start.
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:33 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] what happens if firewall service stop?
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Hello
> I am concerned if something goes wrong and I don't get access to
> machine. As an example if firewalls service goes done for any reason,
> what will happen to connection? Is it going to cut all connections or it
> becomes an unprotected connection?
> When you install ISA it automatically disabled windows built in firewall
> I have. So in that case if something goes wrong then the internet faced
> network card becomes unprotected, right?
> 
> 
> 
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