You really do not have a clue of what the others were trying to tell you, do you? Sounds like the "Certified Network Expert" that a client called in to provide internet access to all computers when then switched from dialup (through Small Business Server 4.0) to a satellite connection. You going to love this. He pulled a new drop for each computer, installed a 2nd NIC in each computer, and routed those to a hub connected to the Satellite router. All because my recommended method of upgrading the server from Back Office 4.0 to Small Business Server 2000 including new hardware. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:54 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > And may I suggest you not to waste my time anymore? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: October 6, 2004 12:34 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > You completely miss the point..... > > If you've taken the Microsoft Class and you've passed the Microsoft > certification test for ISA, you should know what happens when you turn off > the firewall service..... If you don't, then there is something EXTREMELY > WRONG with you having a CERTIFICATION that says you understand how to > install a product, configure a product, and support a product. > > My problem is with people with "certifications" that have no idea with what > they are doing. People like you. > > May I suggest going back to your place that you took the class and getting > your money back. Apparently you do not understand most of the basic > functions of the software. Then go back to the testing center, slap the > person behind the desk, and tell them to tell Microsoft that you passed the > test without understanding anything at all, either that, or you cheated. > Not saying that you did, but those are the only 2 reasonable answers that > exist. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:04 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop? > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Your problems with other parties are not my concern and I don't need you to > give me a job. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: October 6, 2004 9:46 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > You've taken the course AND passed the cert? Oh hell, that makes you more > qualified to answer questions than me then, ya know, since I haven't sat the > test yet..... > > And all the MCSE's wonder why we don't hire them..... > > I'm a little bitter today. I spent 4 hours on the phone yesterday with a > 3rd party support FE who is an NT 4.0 MCSE who has NEVER IN HIS LIFE > INSTALLED NT 4.0!!!! And to make it worse, he pulled out ANOTHER NIC from > the system without uninstalling it first.... Bah.... Time to get some > coffee..... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:52 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop? > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Yes I always say I am newbie because there is always room to learn. But that > also doesn't mean you become rude and think you know better than others. I > have done the ISA course and have my cert too. It's a while I am using it my > friend. I believe every question if worth to ask as might bring up some new > points. So if it bothers you dealing with this, please don't reply. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: October 6, 2004 8:42 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: what happens if firewall service stop? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Obviously you have no idea how ISA works. I would suggest starting at > the very beginning and read all you can about it before you start > playing with it. Isaserver.org is the best place to start. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:33 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] what happens if firewall service stop? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Hello > I am concerned if something goes wrong and I don't get access to > machine. As an example if firewalls service goes done for any reason, > what will happen to connection? Is it going to cut all connections or it > becomes an unprotected connection? > When you install ISA it automatically disabled windows built in firewall > I have. 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