RE: Windows Update

  • From: "Aman Bedi" <gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:06:56 -0500

Jim, 

Autoupdates are working now after I configured those sites for anonymous
access and removed global authentication as per your article. 

Thanks . 

Is the reason still unknown why the auto updates wont work without
anonymous.?



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-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:51 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update

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Thanks Jim, 

That's means either I can have those sites configured as direct access.. 
Or 
I can have them set up according to your article with anonymous access
rule,, 

Right ?

Just want to be sure, on what I asked earlier, because with direct access
for those sites, I cannot access the updates page.
.. 
"I have disabled IE in firewall client settings to force users to use proxy
( for surf control ) Do you think this can be the problem ?
If I have MS site for direct access, can it still authenticate during
updates when IE is disabled in firewall client settings ? "

Thanks Jim 



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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:45 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update

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Global auth is only used for those requests handled by the web proxy.
If you configure sites for direct access, they no longer use the web proxy
and are not subject to that setting.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 16:32
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update

http://www.ISAserver.org


 

 

Hi Tom, 

 

You mean , I should configure the sites for direct access as described in
Jim's article ?

But do I have to disable global authentication ?

 

How have you configured your client ? 

do u have global authentication for proxy clients ? 

are your clients firewall/proxy?

 

Thanks 


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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:13 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update

 

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Hi Aman,

 

When MS.com is on the Direct Access list, it wll bypass the Web proxy and
using other methods to access the site. Since you're using best practices,
you have deployed the Firewall client, and so you can still authenticate
with the ISA firewall, and you can access the WU site. I've never had a
problem getting to the WU site, because the site is configured for Direct
Access.

 

HTH,

Tom

 

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From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:38 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Windows Update

http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi Jim and All

 

Jim, you have an article here 

 

http://msmvps.com/bradley/archive/2004/09/04/13009.aspx by Jim "Mr. Isa"
Harrison

 

which describes how to solve problem accessing windows update.

I was facing this problem, and my computers were not able to update using
automatic updates and even when I go to windows update page and select
custom, I was getting an error "time and date do not match...."

 

I had Microsoft.com in my direct access list on isa server.

Today while testing and try to make the updates work according to your
article , I started playing a little. I tried to remove Microsoft.com from
the direct access list and to my surprise windows update site started to
work. I am using firewall./ proxy clients and I tested this with SNAT
clients too. 

 

I still have the "Global Authentication" for web proxy clients ON. 

 

I am confused here. I had tried all that earlier without bypassing MS site
earlier , but updates never worked. How come suddenly it starts to work and
that too with global authentication on in web proxy clients.

 

 

Am I missing something ?  Its ISA 2004 on windows 2003

I didn't even do the IE settings yet in the registry as described in the
article. 

I still have to test Automatic updates, but I think when updates page has
started to work, that will work too. 

 

Please comment.

 

 

 

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