If you look at the MMC snap-in (certificate manglement), it shows everything in the right place (no matter who is logged in), it's just the ISA MMC that is saying there isn't one installed. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 18:19 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Secure Certificates http://www.ISAserver.org I was referring to how you start up the certificate manglement MMC, not the ISA one.