Yup real wine doesn't have a cork! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:48 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music http://www.ISAserver.org Cigar, yes. Scotch No. At that point of my life, I had to shop here for hootch http://www.bumwine.com/ Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls > -----Original Message----- > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:38 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Foby? Moberta Mack? > > Actually, the way I think about it anyway, they have a pretty > strong musical > relationship. Culturally, they are *very* different, though. > > Roberta's first album (First Take, 1969) really pushed the > envelope. For a > young black woman to come and sing about social reform the > way she did ("Hey > that's no way to say goodbye," "Our Ages or our > Hearts,"Compared to What," > etc) as a mainstream debut in 1969 totally earned my respect. > That combined > with her raw jazz piano, earthy voice and contemplative lyric > just blows me > away. Of course, I was just pushing 4 at the time ;) > > I bet Tom has sat 'round the old turntable with a scotch and a cigar > listening to that album before. > > I think Moby has many of the same qualities on the music > side-- he starts > with slow, methodic chord structure and builds in complex > accompaniments > while making it "easy" to listen to. Pretty talented dude, > actually. His > ambient stuff rocks (oxymoron aside) and his techno-jazz > obviously has > classical roots. They both push my emotional buttons- Moby > does it with > music, Roberta with lyric. > > t > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:24 AM > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Never thought I'd see Moby and Roberta Flack mentioned on the > same page. > What happens if you combine the two? > > Amy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:25 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Looks like a good time to chime in, then! Sorry, I've been trapped > inside > for the last several days with no corkscrew-- It was > horrible-- I had to > > live off of food and water for days. > > Van Halen ROCKS! I lost my hearing to Eddie, thank you very much, but > then > again, I was in High School when their first album hit the streets. > It's a > culture thing. > > I don't listen to too much Tina, but if you don't get choked up by > Roxette's > "Spending my Time," then you sir, have not truly loved and lost! > > And I'll have you know that Enya is an absolutely fantastic artist (as > are > her siblings like Maire Brennan of Clannad). Being Scotch > Irish, I find > her > music quite stirring, even if she takes from some of the darker > Gregorian > chants. In fact, I based the synth backer of a song I wrote called > "Jewel" > (posted on HoG) after that sound. So go piss up a rope! :-p > > Now, to answer the question: > > Bands: > 1) U2 > 2) October Project/The Corrs > 3) R.E.M/Lamb of God/Rush/Tool/Tonic/Marshall Tucker/B-52's/Boston > > Artists: > 1) Andrea Bocelli > 2) Brian Eno > 3) Alice Cooper/Moby/Elton John/Madonna/Prince/Aimee Mann/George > Winston/Roberta Flack > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:48 PM > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Wow this is going well.. Interesting to see..i know it's an extremely > hard question. I could add so many more > Like the eagles, van halen. Etc > > Im still waiting for thors.. Tina turner, roxette and enya (apologies > to anyone who really really likes them, like thor :P) > > Greg Mulholland > Clear IT > Level 10, 530 Little Collins Street > Melbourne, VIC 3000 > Ph: (03) 99097411 Fax: (03) 99097091 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * > [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:42 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Hmmmm. Hard to narrow, quite varied. Here goes. > > Artists: > 1) Itzhak Perlman, Joshua Bell, Yo Yo Ma > 2) Mac Powell, Peter Furler > 3) Anyone with a combination of talent/skill and emotion who's not a > discredit to humanity > > Bands: > 1) U2 > Pink Floyd (Dave Gilmore quite simply played the best lead > riff ever > on Dark Side Live - Comfortably Numb) > Third Day > Newsboys > 2) Christian Rock > 3) Anything else that's not country, hiphop or r&b > 4) Chicaco Symphony > > ----- > Robert Bosch Corporation > Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) > Corporate Sales Reporting Systems > 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA > phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 > shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.bosch.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:57 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > OK This would be really interesting.. I'm gunna start something here, > see if it takes off.. > > I would be interested to know what everyone's favourite 3 bands or > artists would be. Hey, maybe I can stop talking to those who > like Gloria > Estefan :) > > I'd be interested to know what sort of cross section of musical taste > ISA admins have.. :) > > 1. > 2. > 3. > > Ill add mine later, I gotta run > > > > Greg Mulholland > Clear IT > Level 10, 530 Little Collins Street > Melbourne, VIC 3000 > Ph: (03) 99097411 Fax: (03) 99097091 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:46 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Oh yeah I forgot, I had backstage passes at Vai's last > concert here but > I busted my ankle and couldn't even walk on crutches, imagine my > disappointment > > > > Greg Mulholland > Clear IT > Level 10, 530 Little Collins Street > Melbourne, VIC 3000 > Ph: (03) 99097411 Fax: (03) 99097091 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:35 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > He still does.....also I have seen Satch every time he has played > Glasgow, Scotland, since 1982. > > On first name terms...:)) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JosephK [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:22 PM > To: ISA Mailing List > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > I have that CD with those guys. When they talk over night sensations. > Theses guys are not that. I mean, Steve Vai alone practiced 12 - 14 > hours a day in his own studio. Same for all the rest and I've > even read > that he sometimes still spends the times to do the chops. So, I just > have fun anymore trying to learn new licks here and there. > > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * > [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:18 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Oh, to be sure. There's a reason that their idols make millions of = > dollars! I'd always get the same thing from my students. > Except I'm = > classicly trained so all of my teaching's been in the world > of the cello > = and the rest of the violin family. I've just gotten into the guitar > and = rock side of things in the last couple of years, > leading our band > at = church. There's a whole new side of things on the guitar because > of so = many styles that are associated with it! Freakin' cool :) > > Yeah, once you know chord structures you're right up there. > Pretty much > = the same for any instrument (at least in the string and > keyboard side > of = things). Even reading multi line notation like piano music you > learn to = read the chord pictures and what key you're in > instead of the > actual = notes. Infinitely easier that way. That's why so > many awesome > = musicians are crappy sitereaders. Totally different ballgame when = > you're writing, though. That's when it pays to know what > what in any = > given key and what's sharp and flat in any given key / chord > structure. > > Practice practice practice :) Wow, Steve Vai. Incredible. > Did you get > = to get in on that at all?? I've got a video of Steve Vai, Joe > Satriana = and Eric Johnson in a concert together. They all did their > own set and = then one all together. Amazing. > > > > ----- > Robert Bosch Corporation > Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) > Corporate Sales Reporting Systems > 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA > phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 > shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.bosch.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:43 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: Amazon.com: Books: Dr. Tom Shinder's > Configuring > ISA Server 2004 > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Shawn > > I think that's why a lot of people get overwhelmed when picking up the > guitar to learn.. A few of my old students and friends used > to say "how > can I remember, let alone practise all those scales". Point was when I > showed them how they were all based on relatively the same patterns > whilst changing the point of reference (root note) they became not as > difficult. I'm amazed at the amount of people who complicate modes so > much.. > > Having said that with chords I generally work out the structure of the > chord ie 1-b3-b5 and change the root note. That way I remember the > formulas which I find from remembering the numbers I can see > the appegio > and scale within the chord at the same time. It simplifies > the neck for > me :) > > Of course ive done it so many times I know most of them > without needing > to think of the formulas, but it was a great way to learn it. Guitar > teacher friend of mine, teched and played on Steve Vai's Fire Garden > tour, so I had a little help there !! :P > > > Greg Mulholland > Clear IT > Level 10, 530 Little Collins Street > Melbourne, VIC 3000 > Ph: (03) 99097411 Fax: (03) 99097091 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * > [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 4:14 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: Amazon.com: Books: Dr. Tom Shinder's > Configuring > ISA Server 2004 > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Actually we have 54 if you include just the standard major, 3 forms of > minor, the modes, pentatonic and 12-tone. 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