RE: OT: Music
- From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:04:36 -0300
BB King's awesome...saw him live last month in NY in his Blues
Club...highly recommended.
S
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From: James Bedster [mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 3:37 AM
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Top three bands:
Pink Floyd (brilliant stripped down set for Live8) Led Zep Steely Dan
Bubbling under:
Beatles, Stone Roses, White Stripes, Oasis, Hendrix, Bluetones,
Radiohead, Eagles
New bands:
Killers, Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand, Elbow
As a guitarist my most influential guitarists:
Dave Gilmour (seriously underrated), Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton
(especially Bluesbreakers period), Robert Cray, BB King, Santana, Peter
Green, Chuck Berry, John Squire, Johnny Marr
For me I follow the Ray Charles manifesto on music categorisation. There
is only good music and bad music. Bad music in my book is music without
soul. Technically perfect but completely lacking in passion or following
a formula. This includes Michael Bolton, Kenny G, 90% of Country (vocal
twang a must - see Lone Star as prime example), a similar percent of
Folk (nasal vocals and an obsession with 17th Century soldiers leaving
maidens a-crying), all of R&B (Usher, Beyonce et al) and nearly all of
Dance. Unfortunately, soulnessnes also includes noodly guitarists such
as Yngwie Malmsteen, Satriani, Vai and that whole West-coast Guitar Tech
thing. For some reason I also despise Slash. Maybe it's the affected
image. I'm not keen on ColdPlay either.
Some Rap's OK but again a lot of it is to a formula.
I make a special category for Shania Twain who I despise with an
intensity that is only matched by my dislike of Celine Dion.
So pretty much what you'd expect from a middle-aged guy.
Jim Bedster
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From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 12 July 2005 01:57
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OK This would be really interesting.. I'm gunna start something here,
see if it takes off..
I would be interested to know what everyone's favourite 3 bands or
artists would be. Hey, maybe I can stop talking to those who like Gloria
Estefan :)
I'd be interested to know what sort of cross section of musical taste
ISA admins have.. :)
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Ill add mine later, I gotta run
Greg Mulholland
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Oh yeah I forgot, I had backstage passes at Vai's last concert here but
I busted my ankle and couldn't even walk on crutches, imagine my
disappointment
Greg Mulholland
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:35 AM
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He still does.....also I have seen Satch every time he has played
Glasgow, Scotland, since 1982.
On first name terms...:))
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From: JosephK [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:22 PM
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I have that CD with those guys. When they talk over night sensations.
Theses guys are not that. I mean, Steve Vai alone practiced 12 - 14
hours a day in his own studio. Same for all the rest and I've even read
that he sometimes still spends the times to do the chops. So, I just
have fun anymore trying to learn new licks here and there.
Joseph
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From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Oh, to be sure. There's a reason that their idols make millions of =
dollars! I'd always get the same thing from my students. Except I'm =
classicly trained so all of my teaching's been in the world of the cello
= and the rest of the violin family. I've just gotten into the guitar
and = rock side of things in the last couple of years, leading our band
at = church. There's a whole new side of things on the guitar because
of so = many styles that are associated with it! Freakin' cool :)
Yeah, once you know chord structures you're right up there. Pretty much
= the same for any instrument (at least in the string and keyboard side
of = things). Even reading multi line notation like piano music you
learn to = read the chord pictures and what key you're in instead of the
actual = notes. Infinitely easier that way. That's why so many awesome
= musicians are crappy sitereaders. Totally different ballgame when =
you're writing, though. That's when it pays to know what what in any =
given key and what's sharp and flat in any given key / chord structure.
Practice practice practice :) Wow, Steve Vai. Incredible. Did you get
= to get in on that at all?? I've got a video of Steve Vai, Joe
Satriana = and Eric Johnson in a concert together. They all did their
own set and = then one all together. Amazing.
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Shawn
I think that's why a lot of people get overwhelmed when picking up the
guitar to learn.. A few of my old students and friends used to say "how
can I remember, let alone practise all those scales". Point was when I
showed them how they were all based on relatively the same patterns
whilst changing the point of reference (root note) they became not as
difficult. I'm amazed at the amount of people who complicate modes so
much..
Having said that with chords I generally work out the structure of the
chord ie 1-b3-b5 and change the root note. That way I remember the
formulas which I find from remembering the numbers I can see the appegio
and scale within the chord at the same time. It simplifies the neck for
me :)
Of course ive done it so many times I know most of them without needing
to think of the formulas, but it was a great way to learn it. Guitar
teacher friend of mine, teched and played on Steve Vai's Fire Garden
tour, so I had a little help there !! :P
Greg Mulholland
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Actually we have 54 if you include just the standard major, 3 forms of
minor, the modes, pentatonic and 12-tone. That doesn't even include any
of the blues scales. :)
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