I have that CD with those guys. When they talk over night sensations. Theses guys are not that. I mean, Steve Vai alone practiced 12 - 14 hours a day in his own studio. Same for all the rest and I've even read that he sometimes still spends the times to do the chops. So, I just have fun anymore trying to learn new licks here and there. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:18 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Music http://www.ISAserver.org Oh, to be sure. There's a reason that their idols make millions of = dollars! I'd always get the same thing from my students. Except I'm = classicly trained so all of my teaching's been in the world of the cello = and the rest of the violin family. I've just gotten into the guitar and = rock side of things in the last couple of years, leading our band at = church. There's a whole new side of things on the guitar because of so = many styles that are associated with it! Freakin' cool :) Yeah, once you know chord structures you're right up there. Pretty much = the same for any instrument (at least in the string and keyboard side of = things). Even reading multi line notation like piano music you learn to = read the chord pictures and what key you're in instead of the actual = notes. Infinitely easier that way. That's why so many awesome = musicians are crappy sitereaders. Totally different ballgame when = you're writing, though. That's when it pays to know what what in any = given key and what's sharp and flat in any given key / chord structure. Practice practice practice :) Wow, Steve Vai. Incredible. Did you get = to get in on that at all?? I've got a video of Steve Vai, Joe Satriana = and Eric Johnson in a concert together. They all did their own set and = then one all together. Amazing. ----- Robert Bosch Corporation Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) Corporate Sales Reporting Systems 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.bosch.us -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:43 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Amazon.com: Books: Dr. Tom Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://www.ISAserver.org Shawn I think that's why a lot of people get overwhelmed when picking up the guitar to learn.. A few of my old students and friends used to say "how can I remember, let alone practise all those scales". Point was when I showed them how they were all based on relatively the same patterns whilst changing the point of reference (root note) they became not as difficult. I'm amazed at the amount of people who complicate modes so much.. Having said that with chords I generally work out the structure of the chord ie 1-b3-b5 and change the root note. That way I remember the formulas which I find from remembering the numbers I can see the appegio and scale within the chord at the same time. It simplifies the neck for me :) Of course ive done it so many times I know most of them without needing to think of the formulas, but it was a great way to learn it. Guitar teacher friend of mine, teched and played on Steve Vai's Fire Garden tour, so I had a little help there !! :P Greg Mulholland Clear IT Level 10, 530 Little Collins Street Melbourne, VIC 3000 Ph: (03) 99097411 Fax: (03) 99097091 -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 4:14 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Amazon.com: Books: Dr. Tom Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://www.ISAserver.org Actually we have 54 if you include just the standard major, 3 forms of minor, the modes, pentatonic and 12-tone. That doesn't even include any of the blues scales. :) ----- Robert Bosch Corporation Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) Corporate Sales Reporting Systems 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.bosch.us ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: josephk@xxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx