Absopositolutely! That's why I avoid dealing in specifics until I know the device(s) we're dealing with... The ISA docs recommend a hub because: 1. The test matrix for L2/L3 devices is #$%$# HUGE!!! 2. Product support statements for non-MS products creates fear in our legal team 3. Because if #1 & #2, there is no way the ISA team can make a "device recommendation" From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:11 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Network Load Balancing And Network Hardware Recomendations Hey Jim, You know, I've been dealing with this question for quite some time and deal with the misconception that you need a hub. The hub is useful for dealing with the switch flooding issue, but there are other ways intelligent switches can deal with this problem. Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA) ________________________________ From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:07 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Network Load Balancing And Network Hardware Recomendations "HP Procurve" - what? That's a product line, not a switch model. Also, you don't need to use a hub; a L2 switch generally works just fine. The problem is when the switch tries to be too smart about L3 and ends up being too smart for its own good. From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Holmes Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:55 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Network Load Balancing And Network Hardware Recomendations Hello, This is possible a little off topic. We currently use Windows Network Load Balancing for our Exchange and ISA servers. Right now to avoid problems with our network switches I have a hub between the NLB hosts and our Network Switches. This connection is therefore limited to 100MB ½ duplex connections. I have new hardware coming in that I need to use NLB on and I would like to have an optimal configuration. I have taken a look at Microsoft KB 192602 and am looking for further recommendations. Our network switches are HP Procurve. Thanks Bill All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.