Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail

  • From: "Carter, Elizabeth" <ecarter@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:14:36 -0400

lol

***************************************** 
Elizabeth C. Carter 
Director of Information Technology 
Virginia Episcopal School 
400 VES Road 
Lynchburg, VA  24503 
434-385-3665 office
434-385-3667 fax

 



-----Original Message-----
From: Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:10 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail


http://www.ISAserver.org


It is the sound people make when they can't get their email!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carter, Elizabeth" <ecarter@xxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail


> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> What is OE?
>
> *****************************************
> Elizabeth C. Carter
> Director of Information Technology
> Virginia Episcopal School
> 400 VES Road
> Lynchburg, VA  24503
> 434-385-3665 office
> 434-385-3667 fax
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:41 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Hi Elizabeth,
>
> A ha! I see the difference. I have my password information stored on the
> local machine, which you probably cannot do in an .edu environment.
>
> I can't think of a way to handle this kind of exception handling. That
> is, to create an exception to a Protocol Rule based on a Site and
> Content Rule or Destination Set.
>
> You might try having them access their Hotmail through OE. I don't
> *believe* that goes through HTTPS.
>
> HTH,
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carter, Elizabeth [mailto:ecarter@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:08 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> We are using Internet Explorer and going to Hotmail.com.  After entering
> a
> hotmail username and password, the following link flashes up after,
> which it
> returns immediately to a non-https site.
>
> https://lc2.law5.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/dologin
>
>
> *****************************************
> Elizabeth C. Carter
> Director of Information Technology
> Virginia Episcopal School
> 400 VES Road
> Lynchburg, VA  24503
> 434-385-3665 office
> 434-385-3667 fax
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:49 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Hi Elizabeth,
>
> I can log in and check my mail. There is no trace of HTTPS. Are they
> using something funky like MSN Explorer or something else unusual?
>
> Can they access their Hotmail account via OE?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carter, Elizabeth [mailto:ecarter@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:11 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Are you actually logging IN to a hotmail account?  The students can
> access
> the site, but can't log in.   I can access the site and log in.  The
> only
> difference between my account and the student accounts is the https
> protocol
> rule.
>
> *****************************************
> Elizabeth C. Carter
> Director of Information Technology
> Virginia Episcopal School
> 400 VES Road
> Lynchburg, VA  24503
> 434-385-3665 office
> 434-385-3667 fax
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:34 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Hi Elizabeth,
>
> Hmmm. When I connect to Hotmail is doesn't show any HTTPS entries in the
> Web Proxy log.
>
> I also blocked HTTPS access and didn't have problems accessing Hotmail
> via the browser.
>
> HTH,
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carter, Elizabeth [mailto:ecarter@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:22 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Perhaps I'm not making myself clear.  The admin's, adults, etc. are fine
> as
> they are, the https protocol rule does not apply to them.  But the
> student
> group is unable to log on to Hotmail, they are blocked because of the
> https
> rule, apparently hotmail requires it to log on?
>
> *****************************************
> Elizabeth C. Carter
> Director of Information Technology
> Virginia Episcopal School
> 400 VES Road
> Lynchburg, VA  24503
> 434-385-3665 office
> 434-385-3667 fax
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:53 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> I don't envy you your job!  I've seen the joy of trying to balance
> access
> lists for the public library; trying to keep the Internet raceway
> running at
> full speed while patching the guardrails is no easy task.
>
> The good news is that, while they _can_ use https to make their initial
> Hotmail connection, there's no real need to do so.  Hotmail will accept
> https connections for sign-in, but drops the user back to http for the
> rest
> of the session.  Thus, no benefit for using HTTPS to Hotmail.
>
> I would recommend following Tom's suggestion.
>
> Jim Harrison
> MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carter, Elizabeth" <ecarter@xxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:32 AM
> Subject: [isalist] ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> This may be a simple issue, but we need some assistance.  We are a
> boarding
> high school and have blocked access to HTTPS sites with a protocol rule
> for
> the Student group on ISA.  We do not want them going to sites such as
> https://safeweb.com to bypass our internet content filtering which runs
> on a
> Compaq Tasksmart server.  We do have the ports open on our Cisco router
> and
> the site is open on our Tasksmart filter/cache server so adults have
> access
> to https sites.  However, we DO want the students to be able to use
> Hotmail
> accounts.  Is there a way to allow access to this particular https site
> without having to open all https sites?  Thanks for any help you can
> provide.
>
> *****************************************
> Elizabeth C. Carter
> Director of Information Technology
> Virginia Episcopal School
> 400 VES Road
> Lynchburg, VA  24503
> 434-385-3665 office
> 434-385-3667 fax
>
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