We are using Internet Explorer and going to Hotmail.com. After entering a hotmail username and password, the following link flashes up after, which it returns immediately to a non-https site. https://lc2.law5.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/dologin ***************************************** Elizabeth C. Carter Director of Information Technology Virginia Episcopal School 400 VES Road Lynchburg, VA 24503 434-385-3665 office 434-385-3667 fax -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:49 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Elizabeth, I can log in and check my mail. There is no trace of HTTPS. Are they using something funky like MSN Explorer or something else unusual? Can they access their Hotmail account via OE? Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: Carter, Elizabeth [mailto:ecarter@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:11 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail http://www.ISAserver.org Are you actually logging IN to a hotmail account? The students can access the site, but can't log in. I can access the site and log in. The only difference between my account and the student accounts is the https protocol rule. ***************************************** Elizabeth C. Carter Director of Information Technology Virginia Episcopal School 400 VES Road Lynchburg, VA 24503 434-385-3665 office 434-385-3667 fax -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:34 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Elizabeth, Hmmm. When I connect to Hotmail is doesn't show any HTTPS entries in the Web Proxy log. I also blocked HTTPS access and didn't have problems accessing Hotmail via the browser. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: Carter, Elizabeth [mailto:ecarter@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:22 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail http://www.ISAserver.org Perhaps I'm not making myself clear. The admin's, adults, etc. are fine as they are, the https protocol rule does not apply to them. But the student group is unable to log on to Hotmail, they are blocked because of the https rule, apparently hotmail requires it to log on? ***************************************** Elizabeth C. Carter Director of Information Technology Virginia Episcopal School 400 VES Road Lynchburg, VA 24503 434-385-3665 office 434-385-3667 fax -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 12:53 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail http://www.ISAserver.org I don't envy you your job! I've seen the joy of trying to balance access lists for the public library; trying to keep the Internet raceway running at full speed while patching the guardrails is no easy task. The good news is that, while they _can_ use https to make their initial Hotmail connection, there's no real need to do so. Hotmail will accept https connections for sign-in, but drops the user back to http for the rest of the session. Thus, no benefit for using HTTPS to Hotmail. I would recommend following Tom's suggestion. Jim Harrison MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carter, Elizabeth" <ecarter@xxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:32 AM Subject: [isalist] ISA, HTTPS, and Hotmail http://www.ISAserver.org This may be a simple issue, but we need some assistance. We are a boarding high school and have blocked access to HTTPS sites with a protocol rule for the Student group on ISA. We do not want them going to sites such as https://safeweb.com to bypass our internet content filtering which runs on a Compaq Tasksmart server. We do have the ports open on our Cisco router and the site is open on our Tasksmart filter/cache server so adults have access to https sites. However, we DO want the students to be able to use Hotmail accounts. Is there a way to allow access to this particular https site without having to open all https sites? Thanks for any help you can provide. ***************************************** Elizabeth C. 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